GO & A
if you’re really disciplined, you can [go there], but I usually try to go of a morning.
GQ: So you’re a paid-up member of this gym? KR:
Yeah, where a lot of the trainers are Australian so I wouldn’t give them the joy of watching me sweat and die on the foor in front of them [laughs].
GQ: You’re soon to become a grandfather for a second time, does that mean taking stock? And how much do you enjoy playing grandpa? KR:
It’s a delight, it’s just heaps of fun. Baby Josephine [Rudd’s frst grandchild, born to daughter Jessica in 2012] is just a barrel of laughs so we’re on Skype every day chatting away and singing songs. I usually travel with about a dozen fnger puppets in my brief case so if I’m at an airport lounge I go straight on Facetime or Skype and we have a puppet show to the general bemusement of business class travellers. We play hide and seek and we have dinner together. I will nibble and she will nibble and I will ask if she has eaten her vegetables and she will ask if I’ve eaten mine. She’s a serious threenager.
GQ: And when is Jessica due to give birth to her next child? KR: GQ: And you’ll be back for the birth? KR: GQ: Moving away from puppet shows and being ‘Gramps’ – what was your response to the recent US Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage? KR:
About the end of the year. Absolutely. This is a milestone reform in the United States and I think it’s absolutely the right thing for this world of the 21st century… People don’t choose their sexuality, it’s just how they are. And we’re a bunch of fools if we think we can, by legislative design, change someone’s sexuality or deny them legal recognition of their relationship. So for Australia, the time has well and truly come. People have often asked me why I didn’t legislate in the frst term of government to this effect. There are two reasons for that. One is [that] my views then were much more conservative than they subsequently became. When I changed my views I made it very well-known, publicly explaining why. I had, prior to the 2007 election, made a public commitment to the churches that I wouldn’t try to change the marriage act in my frst term in offce. After Julia Gillard replaced me with the support of one of the most conservative trade unions in the country, she became passionately opposed to marriage equality, which partly explains why we are where we are.
GQ: What do you miss most about Australia? KR:
My daughter, my son Marcus who is at university in Brisbane, our granddaughter and our grandchild-to be. We’re a very tight family unit, always have been, so when you’re separated that is a bit hard. And also, kicking your feet through the sand on the Sunshine Coast.
GQ: Are you still friends with people in Australian politics? KR:
Of course, I’m always talking to people like Albo [Anthony Albanese] and Chris Bowen, and a bunch of other people, including long-standing members of my staff, who have been good friends and great colleagues over many years.
GQ: You’re fortunate to have a very dynamic and wealthy wife who created a wonderful business that sold for a lot of money. Does that situation allow for a sense of freedom? KR:
We both began life without a brass razoo; not a dollar when we married so whatever we have we’ve earned. And Therese is an