GO & A

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if you’re re­ally dis­ci­plined, you can [go there], but I usu­ally try to go of a morn­ing.

GQ: So you’re a paid-up mem­ber of this gym? KR:

Yeah, where a lot of the train­ers are Aus­tralian so I wouldn’t give them the joy of watch­ing me sweat and die on the foor in front of them [laughs].

GQ: You’re soon to be­come a grand­fa­ther for a sec­ond time, does that mean tak­ing stock? And how much do you en­joy play­ing grandpa? KR:

It’s a de­light, it’s just heaps of fun. Baby Josephine [Rudd’s frst grand­child, born to daugh­ter Jes­sica in 2012] is just a bar­rel of laughs so we’re on Skype ev­ery day chat­ting away and singing songs. I usu­ally travel with about a dozen fnger pup­pets in my brief case so if I’m at an air­port lounge I go straight on Facetime or Skype and we have a pup­pet show to the gen­eral be­muse­ment of busi­ness class trav­ellers. We play hide and seek and we have din­ner to­gether. I will nib­ble and she will nib­ble and I will ask if she has eaten her veg­eta­bles and she will ask if I’ve eaten mine. She’s a se­ri­ous three­nager.

GQ: And when is Jes­sica due to give birth to her next child? KR: GQ: And you’ll be back for the birth? KR: GQ: Mov­ing away from pup­pet shows and be­ing ‘Gramps’ – what was your re­sponse to the re­cent US Supreme Court rul­ing on gay mar­riage? KR:

About the end of the year. Ab­so­lutely. This is a mile­stone re­form in the United States and I think it’s ab­so­lutely the right thing for this world of the 21st cen­tury… Peo­ple don’t choose their sex­u­al­ity, it’s just how they are. And we’re a bunch of fools if we think we can, by leg­isla­tive de­sign, change some­one’s sex­u­al­ity or deny them le­gal recog­ni­tion of their re­la­tion­ship. So for Aus­tralia, the time has well and truly come. Peo­ple have of­ten asked me why I didn’t leg­is­late in the frst term of gov­ern­ment to this ef­fect. There are two rea­sons for that. One is [that] my views then were much more con­ser­va­tive than they sub­se­quently be­came. When I changed my views I made it very well-known, pub­licly ex­plain­ing why. I had, prior to the 2007 elec­tion, made a public com­mit­ment to the churches that I wouldn’t try to change the mar­riage act in my frst term in of­fce. Af­ter Ju­lia Gil­lard re­placed me with the sup­port of one of the most con­ser­va­tive trade unions in the coun­try, she be­came pas­sion­ately op­posed to mar­riage equal­ity, which partly ex­plains why we are where we are.

GQ: What do you miss most about Aus­tralia? KR:

My daugh­ter, my son Mar­cus who is at univer­sity in Bris­bane, our grand­daugh­ter and our grand­child-to be. We’re a very tight fam­ily unit, al­ways have been, so when you’re sep­a­rated that is a bit hard. And also, kick­ing your feet through the sand on the Sun­shine Coast.

GQ: Are you still friends with peo­ple in Aus­tralian pol­i­tics? KR:

Of course, I’m al­ways talk­ing to peo­ple like Albo [An­thony Al­banese] and Chris Bowen, and a bunch of other peo­ple, in­clud­ing long-stand­ing mem­bers of my staff, who have been good friends and great col­leagues over many years.

GQ: You’re for­tu­nate to have a very dy­namic and wealthy wife who cre­ated a won­der­ful busi­ness that sold for a lot of money. Does that sit­u­a­tion al­low for a sense of free­dom? KR:

We both be­gan life with­out a brass ra­zoo; not a dol­lar when we mar­ried so what­ever we have we’ve earned. And Therese is an

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