Real talk with Phillip Lim.

On the 10th an­niver­sary of his epony­mous la­bel, Phillip Lim shares his best ad­vice for stay­ing grounded.

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Af­ter 10 years, how do you keep things fresh?

“I feel like I’m tran­si­tion­ing into the next phase of 3.1 Phillip Lim. I al­ways say I’m an evo­lu­tion­ary de­signer, not a rev­o­lu­tion­ary one, be­cause I’m not try­ing to make gi­ant ges­tures and rein­vent any­thing; I’m just car­ry­ing the con­ver­sa­tion and the di­a­logue forward. And in this next phase, mindfulness and ac­count­abil­ity and the way you do things is re­ally im­por­tant to me. I’ve al­ways ques­tioned why it takes so much ugly to cre­ate beauty, and I want to keep ques­tion­ing that and chal­lenge it.”

Where do you find beauty th­ese days?

“I’m learn­ing more and more to ac­cept that things aren’t per­fect and to find ec­stasy in that.”

What’s the big­gest les­son you have learned?

“I never say never any­more, be­cause the things you run away from or avoid are the things you fear. If you fear some­thing, you don’t have a han­dle on it and you should prob­a­bly ad­dress that. I think it’s more fun to look at it from an­other point of view, like, ‘Let me try it and find the solution for it.’”

So, don’t dwell or ob­sess? Just move on?

“Take a mo­ment. Take a deep breath. Dry your eyes. And then keep it mov­ing.”

What’s your for­mula for stay­ing true to your­self?

“No mat­ter how hard and dif­fi­cult and im­pos­si­ble some­thing may seem, if it gives me a laugh still, if it gives me a tickle, then I know I’m be­ing true.”

That’s very Zen; has that al­ways been your phi­los­o­phy?

“I think it stems from this yearn­ing to slow ev­ery­thing down for the mo­ment, to ap­pre­ci­ate what we do and all the hard work and ef­fort we put into our lives.” How do you deal with crit­ics? “There are so many crit­ics; ev­ery­one has an opinion, and ev­ery­one has a right to their opinion. If you’re true to your­self, then it’s just a lit­tle noise that will go away in a sec­ond. And at the end of the day, only you can hold light to your own ac­tions.”

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