It’s about the his­to­ry of art. I’ll go by the Re­nais­sance de­fi­ni­tion of art: sculp­ture and ar­chi­tec­ture and pain­ting to­ge­ther.


I want to ask you about what must be your most quo­ted sta­te­ment about art. You said: “What you see is what you see.” That is ge­ne­ral­ly un­ders­tood as a sta­te­ment about the li­te­ra­lism and an­ti-illu­sio­nism of mi­ni­ma­lism. But now that your work plays with ele­ments of illu­sion and an­ti-illu­sion, I won­der what you ac­tual­ly meant by that man­tra.

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