Duos in art are not very common. How do you work together? What is your creative process? D: It's complicated to work together, but after 25 years I think we're getting there. In general, there are questions such as, Who signs this? Who does that? Who goes there? It was hard to escape that. On the other hand, you have to take into account that the art world tends to segregate teams because it seems difficult to back them for the long haul. M: Are we really segregated? D: Totally. It was twice as difficult to get the art world's attention, and we get it now only because we've been doing this over twenty years. M: True. Longevity is an important issue. A single person is single forever. There's no doubt a single person will stay whole, but a duo can break. Since we haven't broken, we are stronger for it. D: We are a democracy, constantly bouncing ideas back and forth, looking to be challenged and to reach a consensus outside ourselves. M: (laughs) Yes, we have to lobby now, and this changed the way we create over time. But we haven't made a particular effort to stay together. It just happened.