Peo­ple are sick of the po­lit­i­cal sys­tem... They want a good al­ter­na­tive and those who can de­liver. Peo­ple have seen the gover­nance in Delhi


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Is Arvind Ke­jri­wal against Am­bani, Adani? We are against crony cap­i­tal­ism. Whether it is Congress or BJP, busi­nesses of Adani or Am­bani run. Their busi­nesses don’t run on ac­count of giv­ing good prod­ucts, but be­cause of col­lu­sion with gov­ern­ment. To get prof­its by wrong means. We are against that. We are not against pri­vate sec­tor. So many ben­e­fits we have given to traders. What is the pri­vate sec­tor? It is the peo­ple of this coun­try. We want to do good for the peo­ple, so how can there be any an­i­mos­ity to­wards the peo­ple.

What role do you see for the pri­vate sec­tor? We feel that the gov­ern­ment should not in­ter­fere too much in pri­vate sec­tor. It should be clear as to what work the gov­ern­ment should do and what pri­vate sec­tor should do. Ev­ery­thing was mixed up by them. Like trans­port, for in­stance. There is ab­so­lutely no rea­son why DTC (state-run Delhi Trans­port Cor­po­ra­tion) should be a pre­dom­i­nant player. Af­ter our gov­ern­ment was formed, bu­reau­crats in this build­ing said pur­chase 2,000-4,000 more buses. I said en­cour­age pri­vate sec­tor into this. Now all of this is go­ing to the pri­vate sec­tor. Why should the gov­ern­ment be in­volved in run­ning buses?

At your talk at CII, you had said pri­vate sec­tor cre­ates jobs. So you are not against cap­i­tal­ism, but crony cap­i­tal­ism… Ob­vi­ously not. Who can be?

What do you think about the Congress? Is it an ef­fec­tive op­po­si­tion to the BJP? I think the Congress is steadily be­com­ing re­dun­dant in pol­i­tics. There are two things. Peo­ple’s faith in the ex­ist­ing po­lit­i­cal set-up has fin­ished. So when they vote, they do it for de­feat­ing (in­cum­bents). Sec­ond, who are the peo­ple hope­ful of? Peo­ple have no hope from Congress. Also, today, the con­di­tion

You seem to be tak­ing an ul­tra-na­tion­al­ist stance on Pathankot, whereas the BJP ap­pears to be tak­ing a rea­son­able one… We are not against co­op­er­a­tion, we want en­gage­ment. This should not be treated as we are against en­gage­ment. Talk to them (Pak­istan). But call­ing Pak­istan’s in­ves­tiga­tive agency for prob­ing ter­ror here means aa­punke­saam­nelet­gayeho (you have ca­pit­u­lated to them). There is a dif­fer­ence. Talks hap­pened at sec­re­tary, for­eign min­is­ter and Prime Min­is­ter lev­els. I want to say that en­gage in talks, but when you’re say­ing that ISI is do­ing all this, you are call­ing them here to probe. You gave them (Laughs) I have no such am­bi­tions and in­ten­tions. I did not have am­bi­tions of be­com­ing the CM ei­ther. As you all know we had started an ag­i­ta­tion and had they passed our Jan Lok­pal bill they wouldn’t have had to deal with the Aam Admi Party or us. We have no such am­bi­tions.

But if you have some am­bi­tions, what is wrong in stat­ing that? But I don’t have am­bi­tions. If I had am­bi­tions I would state that up­front…as you rightly said I am very frank. (laughs) (Laughs) That must have been said by Yo­gen­dra Ya­dav, etc. There is noth­ing wrong with be­ing am­bi­tious. Par­jab­nahin­hain­tohnahin­hain (But when I am not, I am not). It’s a hy­po­thet­i­cal ques­tion. My com­mit­ment is to Delhi. See, lead­er­ship is im­por­tant. There is ab­so­lutely no doubt. Like, in Delhi ev­ery­one works…Man­ish (Siso­dia), Satyen­dar Jain…our of­fi­cers are all work­ing 24/7 but peo­ple recog­nise the face. To that ex­tent peo­ple have hopes from the lead­er­ship.

What do you think are the mis­takes Modi has made af­ter a fan­tas­tic man­date? I broadly think that within two years they have turned farm­ers, traders, stu­dents, teach­ing com­mu­nity, Dal­its against them. Mi­nori­ties were any­way against them from the be­gin­ning.

There is strong ha­tred they have sown in the To po­larise. To di­vide the so­ci­ety. Vo­jaan­boo­jhke zabar­dastiBharatkekhi­laaf­naare­lag­wati­haiBJP (BJP or­ches­trates anti-na­tional slo­gans). Delhi Police has the pho­to­graphs of these boys. Why haven’t they been caught?

Are you say­ing that the en­tire JNU con­tro­versy was set up by the BJP? Yes. I am say­ing this on record.

Will you take ac­tion since your re­port has named news chan­nels and so­cial me­dia users? Yes, we will take ac­tion. It’s just that we want the case to be fool­proof so we are col­lect­ing ev­i­dence from ev­ery­where, get­ting more videos foren­si­cally ex­am­ined. Maybe in a week or 10 days the cases will be filed.

What is your view on all these schemes that the cen­tral gov­ern­ment has an­nounced — Make in In­dia, Dig­i­tal In­dia, Start Up In­dia, Stand Up In­dia? (In­ter­jects) Sit down In­dia, Sleep In­dia (laughs)

Well, do you think these are good ini­tia­tives? Or do you think these are good ideas but badly im­ple­mented? It will be dif­fi­cult for me to get into their in­ten­tions but ob­vi­ously noth­ing has taken off and they are just talk­ing. Peo­ple are fed up of this talk. Peo­ple are look­ing for re­sults and there are none. It won’t be right of me to say they had no in­ten­tion to de­liver but there is no re­sult. Swach­hBharat­meina­gar ek­gal­ib­hisaafhogay­i­ho­todikhado­humein (Show me if even one lane has been cleaned un­der Swachh Bharat pro­gramme).

What do you think is the rea­son? Why is the ex­e­cu­tion poor? I think here one starts doubt­ing their in­ten­tion. Why is ev­ery­thing fail­ing? It was a his­toric chance for

Yet, some peo­ple who claim to know you say you are in­tensely am­bi­tious… Your party is seek­ing votes in your name in Pun­jab, but can a non-Sikh per­son be­come the CM of Pun­jab? But the votes are be­ing sought in your name in Pun­jab.

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