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Leonard McCarthy

The pres­i­dent said I must speak to Fe­rial and just ask them to quiet down a lit­tle, which I did ...

We are do­ing more dam­age to our­selves than the Mail & Guardian

We are just f***king things up our­selves

Bule­lani Ngcuka

That’s true, that’s true, ab­so­lutely true, you know that’s true

Leonard McCarthy

I met with her now and I con­veyed those sen­ti­ments

She said: ‘Leonard, it’s not your guys speak­ing, I would tell you if it’s your guys speak­ing to us. We have our own sources

‘But the prob­lem is that your depart­ment, your min­istry, and be­tween your min­istry and Mpshe, they are fight­ing so much, that we are hav­ing a field day

You in­flict dam­age your­self, don’t blame us’

Bule­lani Ngcuka

That’s true

Leonard McCarthy

Leonard McCarthy

She says we are be­ing kind to you be­cause we know you are strong guys there, you don’t talk s**t. Umm, there is noth­ing con­tro­ver­sial about you

But as for the rest, don’t blame us if we ridicule them a lit­tle be­cause they are do­ing it to them­selves

Bule­lani Ngcuka

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