THE POD­CAST­ERS

JA­NINE JEL­LARS AND TSHE­GO­FATSO SENNE, HOSTS OF ‘FRANK WITH JA­NINE AND TSHEGO’

Marie Claire (South Africa) - - REAL LIVES -

Writ­ers Ja­nine and Tshe­go­fatso put a fem­i­nist spin on ev­ery­thing from pop cul­ture to pol­i­tics in their en­gag­ing and hon­est pod­cast, which Ja­nine started af­ter nd­ing a lac of lo­cal fem­i­nist voices on­line @Frank_Pod­cast

JA­NINE

I wanted to cre­ate a space to talk about feminism pub­licly ut a log wasn't orig­i­nal and a vlog makes peo­ple guarded. That guard im­me­di­ately drops when you can't see who you're talk­ing to; it's so free­ing. It's im­por­tant for women to val­i­date oth­ers through talk­ing about the things that af­fect us, as black women es­pe­cially when you share your ex­pe­ri­ences and have a pos­i­tive re­sponse, you re­alise you're not crazy - the sys­tem is crazy. And I want that to trans­late to on-the-ground, real dif­fer­ences for women, where we feel safe in all the spa­ces we oc­cupy @ja­nine_j

TSHE­GO­FATSO

‘I sur­round my­self with women who con­stantly in­spire me, who are cre­at­ing their own spa­ces in a way that feels like they're work­ing for the ben­e­fit of us all. I love be­ing able to work on is­sues that are im­por­tant to me and that ex­cite me, like feminism, pos­i­tively en­gag­ing with our bod­ies, and our roles in so­ci­ety; and the more I cre­ate, the more I now that my anger and frus­tra­tion aren't for noth­ing when I write about feminism and women's sex­ual health, it chal­lenges peo­ple's be­liefs and that of­ten leads to ig­no­rant re­sponses and lash­ing out. It can be over­whelm­ing ut I've learned to man­age it As long you have the en­ergy to de­fend your­self, do it But you don't have to show up to ev­ery fight; self-care is im­por­tant too.' @mbon­go­muf­fin

JA­NINE WEARS DRESS R1 039, BAN­GLE R149 BOTH RIVER IS­LAND; SHOES R1 199 ZARA

TSHE­GO­FATSO WEARS JACKET R859 ZARA; DRESS R499 MANGO; HEELS R1 399 RIVER IS­LAND

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