Martins admits meeting Guptas, but not with Daniels
“Why did I accept his [Tony Gupta’s] presence? It was not an official meeting.” — Minister Ben Martins
CAPE TOWN — Deputy Public Enterprises Minister Ben Martins admitted yesterday that he had met members of the Gupta family on “three or four” occasions.
At a media briefing held at Parliament, Martins said one of such instances was when Tony Gupta and Lucky Montana, then CEO of the Passenger Rail Agency of South Africa (Prasa) came to his government house in Pretoria to discuss transportrelated matters.
Martins was asked what legitimacy there was for Tony Gupta to accompany Montana to his house, seeing that government business was discussed. The deputy minister then revealed that he had received a letter from the Gupta family, asking him to remove then Prasa chairperson Sfiso Buthelezi and Montana from their positions.
“Why did I accept his [Tony Gupta’s] presence? It was not an official meeting,” Martins said. “There was an issue regarding the changing of the board.”
Martins said he made a phone call to Tony Gupta, telling him “nobody can tell me to re move people unfairly if they had done nothing”.
“I raised the issue on a phone call to Tony Gupta about a letter I received. He wanted to resolve this matter and I invited them to my house in Pretoria. Subsequent to that Sfiso Buthelezi remained chairperson of Prasa. And Lucky Montana remained CEO. They were not removed.”
Martins also admitted to attending an “Indian food fair” at the Guptas’ house in Saxonwold, which, according to him, was “open to the public”.
“I went there in my personal capacity and not as a minister,” he said.
Martins called a media briefing yesterday morning, and denied allegations that he met suspended Eskom head of legal Suzanne Daniels with Ajay Gupta and Duduzane Zuma in July 2017.
“I am perplexed by Ms Suzanne Daniels’ testimony to the parliamentary inquiry into Eskom,” he said in a statement issued earlier yesterday.
“She falsely claimed that I had attended a tea party in Johannesburg with her, Mr Ajay Gupta, Mr Salim Essa and Mr Duduzane Zuma.
“As the head of Eskom’s legal department, Ms Daniels should account to Parliament for what happened under her watch rather than seek to use the occasion to reinvent herself as clueless ignoramus.”
Testifying before the Parliament’s public enterprises committee’s inquiry into state capture at Eskom on Wednesday, Daniels told MPs how Ajay Gupta and Gupta associate Salim Essa on separate occasions tried to influence decisions related to executives at the power utility and how she was taken by Essa to meet Ajay Gupta in an apartment. She said Martins and Duduzane Zuma were also present.