“THIS WILL BE AN EVO­LU­TION OF TOOL”

TWELVE YEARS IN THE MAK­ING, THE NEW TOOL AL­BUM WILL FI­NALLY AR­RIVE IN 2018! SO SAYS DRUM­MER DANNY CAREY, ANYHOW, AS HE UN­VEILS HIS NEW SU­PER­GROUP, THE MYS­TE­RI­OUS LEG­END OF THE SEAG­ULL­MEN…

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COULD 2018 be the year we see an end to the ag­o­nis­ing wait for new mu­sic from Tool? Ac­cord­ing to drum­mer Danny Carey, the Amer­i­can art-rock­ers will fi­nally be re­leas­ing their fifth stu­dio al­bum at some point over the next 12 months, end­ing the 12-year wait we’ve en­dured since 2006’s 10,000 Days.

It’s not all the ac­claimed sticks­man has been keep­ing busy with, ei­ther, with the launch of new su­per­group Leg­end Of The Seag­ull­men on New Year’s Eve ahead of next month’s self-ti­tled de­but al­bum.with a line-up that in­cludes Mastodon’s Brent Hinds, Jonah Hex/ Hor­ton Hears A Who! di­rec­tor Jimmy Hay­ward, Dethk­lok bassist Pete Grif­fin and a front­man who calls him­self ‘The Doc­tor’, they’re on a mis­sion to drown the world with wa­tery tales of tragic ship­wrecks, mu­tant squids and un­abashed mar­itime an­ar­chy. Best let Danny and Jimmy ex­plain all, eh…

AHOY THERE, SEAG­ULL­MEN! WHAT INI­TIALLY AT­TRACTED YOU TO PEN­NING ODES TO THE DEEP SEA, DANNY?

DANNY CAREY (DRUMS): “The great thing about the sea is, if you run out of in­spi­ra­tion, you

just keep go­ing deeper! No-one knows what’s down there in the ocean; we know more about the moon than the bot­tom of the ocean… for real!” JIMMY HAY­WARD (GUI­TAR): “Though I was a mu­si­cian first – that’s how me and Danny met – I’ve mainly worked in the movie busi­ness. I’m known as a di­rec­tor or writer or film-maker, so nat­u­rally we re­ally care about that visual el­e­ment. Ev­ery­thing is care­fully crafted, be­cause we’re artists in dif­fer­ent ways.when I was a kid grow­ing up, I loved al­bum art. I would sit there – and I still do to this day as if I was eight years old – look­ing at the cov­ers like Iron Maiden’s The Num­ber Of The Beast and lis­ten­ing to the mu­sic. Danny would bring over things he loved, like Gen­e­sis and Yes, these heavy con­cept things, and I would stare at the art for ages. I feel like this band has to be like a record cover – I love that sin­gu­lar im­age that cap­tures ev­ery­thing per­fectly. Look at Meat Loaf’s Bat Out Of Hell: I saw the cover and thought it would be the most rip­ping al­bum ever.then it came on and I turned it off. A great record cover can even over-de­liver. In this band, we all seem to have a dis­parate, broad se­lec­tion of mu­si­cal tastes.we all dig nerdy prog stuff, jazz stuff, heavy shit – Danny went to the ballet the other day. I grew up watch­ing sym­phonies all the time. It was ac­tu­ally our singer, David ‘The Doc­tor’ Dreyer, who had this wild vi­sion for our nau­ti­cal theme…”

TELL US MORE ABOUT THE DOC­TOR…

DANNY: “We could prob­a­bly tell you about him, but then we’d have to kill you. He’s kinda mys­te­ri­ous – he’s the one that comes up with the lore and weird­ness to our songs. Most of the world thinks ev­ery­one down south is a red­neck weirdo, but then you meet a guy like him where you think,‘this could only hap­pen down there!’ He’s a freak, man.a spe­cial enigma.you just have to nur­ture him and feed him what­ever it takes, sour beans and stuff like that.and Brent’s a wild bird – all I can say is he’s an out­law. When we had Mastodon open up for Tool, our gui­tar player Adam [Jones] went up to Brent to ask him how he did all that chicken-pickin’ shit.” JIMMY: “The Doc­tor brought this to me and Brent, we got all the guys to­gether.we re­fined it to­gether mu­si­cally and from a story stand­point. The Doc­tor’s a re­ally wild dude; he’s like a big, burly mous­ta­chioed uni­corn. He lived with Brent in At­lanta back in the day, he comes from pro­duc­tion de­sign do­ing videos and shit, but he’s been do­ing art-rock shit with his brother go­ing way back. He was in a band called Heinous Bien­fang from At­lanta, who would throw raw fish at the au­di­ence, wrap them­selves up in cling film, or fling bags of flour at the crowd. He comes from a very art-rock back­ground and he’s a very heavy cat.”

IS THERE A SONG ON THE AL­BUM THAT CAR­RIES THE MOST MEAN­ING? IT’S ALL PRETTY, UM, SEAGULLY…

JIMMY: “The Orca – I’ve lived my en­tire life right on the Pa­cific Ocean, and the same goes for The Doc­tor.there was a place nearby called Sealand who cap­tured an orca back when peo­ple used to go and see cap­tive whales, be­fore they re­alised how fucked up it was.there was a girl who worked for her dad at Sealand – one day she was feed­ing it and ran out of fish.that thing grabbed her into the pool, pressed her against the bot­tom and killed her.the whale was then sold to Seaworld. I wrote that mu­sic and pre­sented it to The Doc­tor right be­fore [2013 doc­u­men­tary] Black­fish came out.we con­nected on the idea of an orca in cap­tiv­ity, lyrics about div­ing from stands and feed­ing on fans – this whale that could never sleep, went crazy and sent this sonar to all the other whales around the world, who come to­gether, take over the world and de­stroy ev­ery­thing. It be­comes a fan­tas­ti­cal ex­trap­o­la­tion of a story that’s su­per-con­nected to us in this crazy nau­ti­cal way.”

YOU PLAYED YOUR FIRST SHOW ON NEW YEAR’S EVE SUP­PORT­ING PRIMUS IN OAK­LAND – WHAT CAN PEO­PLE EX­PECT FROM THE SEAG­ULL­MEN LIVE EX­PE­RI­ENCE?

JIMMY: “Primus have been do­ing this huge New Year’s Eve show in the Bay Area for many years – it’s sort of a tra­di­tional thing and sells out ev­ery time. Danny’s ac­tu­ally played that with them one year when he was fill­ing in while [Primus drum­mer] Herb was sick. Some of us are from the Bay Area, and it

“WE ALL DIG NERDY PROG STUFF, JAZZ STUFF, HEAVY SHIT…” DANNY CAREY

seemed like a nat­u­ral fit.” DANNY: “Mov­ing for­wards it will be when­ever time per­mits, man! We’re all busy peo­ple – Jimmy’s mak­ing movies, Brent’s in Mastodon, I have Tool.we have these win­dows that we’ll take ad­van­tage of in what­ever way we can… be­cause we be­lieve in our band. But NYE is how we planned to break our band in.and it’s ac­tu­ally how we broke in Justin [Chan­cel­lor,tool bassist] when he joined Tool. His first gig was open­ing up for Primus on New Year’s Eve! A bass player’s de­but show open­ing up for [Primus vir­tu­oso leader/bassist] Les Clay­pool… he was fuck­ing hor­ri­fied!”

SPEAK­ING OF TOOL, HOW’S THAT NEW AL­BUM SHAP­ING UP? YOU’VE BEEN QUOTED AS SAY­ING IT WILL DEF­I­NITELY COME OUT IN 2018?

DANNY: “2019? Is that what I said? Oh, 2018 (laughs)… Yeah, it’ll be out at some point in 2018.”

THE LAST TIME K! SPOKE TO ADAM, HE TOLD US THERE WERE A LOT OF ODD TIME SIG­NA­TURES BASED AROUND SEVEN, AND MO­MENTS SIM­I­LAR TO THE MID-SEC­TION OF ROSETTA STONED… DANNY: “Well, what­ever those guys play is how

they ex­press them­selves.adam and Justin aren’t mu­si­cally ed­u­cated, so they just come up with the weird­est shit. I just try to an­chor it down and make it sim­ple.the cool thing is ev­ery time I think I’ve sim­pli­fied it as much as I can, we’ll give it to Maynard [James Keenan, vo­cals] and he’ll do some­thing even more sim­pli­fied – to the point where prac­ti­cally any­one can sing it! It’s sim­ple shit and it’s com­ing out, man.the tracks are long… too long! Def­i­nitely too long for the ra­dio (laughs)!

ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE US ANY CLUES AS TO WHAT KIND OF CON­CEPT AND TI­TLES YOU ARE WORK­ING WITH?

DANNY: “It’s all still a work in progress.we don’t even go there un­til the record is done. It needs to have a voice of its own – just like this new Leg­end Of The Seag­ull­men record.you don’t think about that un­til the project’s fin­ished and it all comes to­gether and con­nects. Ev­ery­thing has its own voice. It’s funny how peo­ple un­der­stand it all when it comes to con­cepts. I know from Pink Floyd, Yes, all these bands – there was no fuck­ing con­cept. Those guys would just go in there and do it un­til it was done… and that’s when it takes shape.at that point, it will tell you what to do, just like any piece of art ever made.”

ARE THERE ANY NEW EL­E­MENTS ON THE RECORD THAT MAY SUR­PRISE FANS OR MARK A FIRST FOR TOOL?

DANNY: “All I can say is when you lis­ten to [1992 EP] Opi­ate, Un­der­tow, Aen­ima, Lat­er­alus and 10,000 Days, to me they all sound like Tool records.we hope we’re get­ting bet­ter at what we do – it’s all an ex­ten­sion. [The new ma­te­rial] def­i­nitely sounds like Tool, but it’s an evo­lu­tion. It’s one of those things that I leave to the jour­nal­ists for when we re­lease it – they’ll say it’s this or that. When peo­ple ask me what’s my favourite song or Tool record, I’m al­ways like,‘dude, it’s all the fuckin’ same to me!’ The old ones are just from a dif­fer­ent mo­ment in time. But none of the songs would be on there un­less I thought they were all equally badass.and it’s the same with Leg­end Of The Seag­ull­men. I’m not go­ing to play on no bull­shit – I don’t have to do that any­more (laughs).you get to a point as an artist where you try to re­fine your craft and get bet­ter at what you do. I choose to be as open as pos­si­ble, in­creas­ing my vo­cab­u­lary to do jus­tice to each mu­si­cal mo­ment. But it’s a Tool record and there­fore ex­actly the same thing – me, Adam and Justin are all meet­ing up in a new place. There’s no pre­con­ceived thing about it. It will be an­other Tool record, just like this is a Seag­ull record. We’ll prob­a­bly make more Seag­ull records by the end (laughs).you have to wait and hear it. I can’t judge it, I’m too far in­side! Hope­fully it will be a mind­melter… oth­er­wise I bet­ter quit!”

No won­der this Tool al­bum’s taken so long

Leg­end Of The Seag­ull­men: win­ning band promo pics since 2018

A Seag­ull­men al­bum sleeve/skull (not anatom­i­cally cor­rect, FYI)

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