Credentials. But within months of joining the new administration, Sebastian Gorka, a self-styled counterterrorism expert and former editor at Breitbart News, became a White House favorite. President Donald Trump loved how he performed on television, aggressively defending the White House on everything from threatening North Korea to failing to condemn the bombing of a mosque.
In August, however, Gorka and his former Breitbart colleague Steve Bannon got booted out of the White House. Gorka’s gone, but he insists he’s not forgotten. He claimed a role in crafting the president’s fiery speech to the United Nations General Assembly in September. [The White House denies this.] So as Trump flirts with the Democrats on issues such as immigration, Gorka hasn’t given up on the president’s “America first” agenda—or his role in advancing it. “I guarantee you,” he says, “people associated with the original campaign will be coming back in, or the president will be leaning on them more than ever.”
What gives you the confidence that Trump will decide he’s better off returning to his original allies?
The president has a very interesting management style. He’s comfortable with unusually high levels of creative chaos beneath him, because he sees who’s the best fighter and who makes the best argument. But if he feels he’s being poorly served by his lieutenants, he allows that frustration to increase until he gets to a point where he takes decisive action. I predict he will take decisive action to get [rid of] those people around him who are not serving his original platform. That’s just how he works. I predict that there will be some firings in the near future that come from the president himself when he realizes just how much he needs the old team to be around him. I’m not making any predictions about Steve and myself. Whether or not Steve goes back or I go back— this is the long game. We’re in this for eight years and then eight years of President Pence.
Has Trump done enough to condemn white supremacists?
The president doesn’t have a racist bone in his body. When people who call themselves journalists have the bare effrontery—have the audacity— to call the White House racist, antisemitic, xenophobic, when the president’s grandchildren are Orthodox Jews, it’s a scandal. These people have no moral compass; they are morally bankrupt.
“We’re in this for eight years and then eight years of President Pence.”