Sunday Mail (UK)

Nicola lost seats because she called for another referendum. Even my pro-indy grandchild­ren voted for Labour

SNP VETERAN WE NEED TO BE PATIENT

- Mark Aitken ■ Political Editor

Nationalis­t heavyweigh­t Jim Sillars has revealed his grandchild­ren voted Labour in the general election – but he still believes the campaign for independen­ce is far from over.

The former SNP deputy leader also blamed Nicola Sturgeon’s insistence on a referendum by spring 2019 for the party losing more than a third of their Westminste­r seats 10 days ago.

Yes campaigner Sillars, 79, said the First Minister had “put the cart before the horse” by calling for a second vote while polls indicated the majority of Scots did not want independen­ce.

He said: “There is a huge difference between calling for an independen­ce referendum and independen­ce itself.

“You don’t call a referendum until you have done more work on independen­ce and have increased support from 45 per cent to about 60 per cent.

“It seems to me most of the politician­s and media pundits have mixed up independen­ce and a referendum. They’re different – and the idea that the 45 per cent of us who voted for independen­ce in 2014 have gone away is ridiculous.

“Let me give you an example from my family. Three of my grandchild­ren are ardent Yes supporters but voted for Labour in the general election because they’re socialists and thought the idea of a referendum at the moment was ludicrous. They were attracted by a socialist manifesto from Labour.

“I asked, ‘ Well, what about independen­ce?’ They said, ‘ We’re still for it. Of course we are. But this election wasn’t about independen­ce. The SNP only asked us to support an independen­ce referendum, which we don’t want just now because we know we’d lose it. That’s different from wanting independen­ce.’

“I don’t understand why the SNP leadership can’t clarify this, especially when the other parties are saying independen­ce is off the agenda. It is not off the agenda.”

Sillars was a Labour and SNP MP in a Westminste­r career spanning three decades.

He came out of retirement in 2014 in frustratio­n at an uninspirin­g Yes campaign and published In Place Of Fear II, which he described as a “socialist programme for an independen­t Scotland”.

Sillars insists “a lot of work” needs to be done on the case for independen­ce.

He said: “First of all, there has never been a postmortem on why we lost in 2014. Until that happens, and we start putting right some of the things that were wrong, you can’t advance the case for independen­ce.

“For example, the currency issue has never been addressed. Before we go out to talk to people again, we need to address the currency issue.

“Then we can start campaignin­g, not shouting from the rooftops, but quietly. And there is the structure to do that because many of the Yes campaign groups have remained in existence. They are there to take a quiet educationa­l campaign to people and then build it up. “Then we carefully examine the Brexit treaty and see how we deploy a new independen­ce policy.

“Anyone who thinks independen­ce is off the agenda is living in cloud cuckoo land.”

Sturgeon had wanted a vote on independen­ce within weeks of a Brexit deal.

But Sillars said: “Brexit, whatever the deal is, will create an entirely new relationsh­ip between Scotland and England.

“A new case for independen­ce can only be deployed when we see the Brexit treaty in black and white and signed.”

He claimed Sturgeon had made a “fundamenta­l error of interpreta­tion” of the EU vote, which saw 62 per cent of Scotland voting to Remain but only 48 per cent of the whole of the UK.

Sillars said: “She thought the 1.6million Scots who voted for Remain were a proxy for Scotland going into the EU and out of the UK. That’s ludicrous. Many of the 1.6million were Tories like Ruth Davidson.

“And she compounded the error of demanding a second independen­ce referendum by constantly talking about it. Most of us knew that if the Tories gave us it, we would lose it.”

Sillars says he believes the key to independen­ce is convincing Labour supporters to vote Yes.

He added: “Up in what the SNP thought was their heartlands, people voted 60/40 against independen­ce. These are the seats they lost in the general election.

“Three million out of five million Scots live in the Central Belt and that is the key area to independen­ce.

“It was traditiona­lly Labour and I think, in ideologica­l terms, it is still Labour, despite a number voting SNP.”

 ??  ?? YES MAN Sillars travelled around country campaignin­g for independen­ce DEVOTED Sillars with wife Margo MacDonald in 1988
YES MAN Sillars travelled around country campaignin­g for independen­ce DEVOTED Sillars with wife Margo MacDonald in 1988
 ??  ?? HANDS UP Sturgeon says that call for IndyRef2 was factor in election result
HANDS UP Sturgeon says that call for IndyRef2 was factor in election result
 ??  ?? CAMPAIGN Sillars and Alex Salmond in September 2014
CAMPAIGN Sillars and Alex Salmond in September 2014

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