WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
We trace Bury’s Fourth Division promotion winners from 1984-85
WAYNE ENTWISTLE became a Shakers legend as one half of the lethal partnership that scored the goals to take Bury to the most unlikely of promotion successes.
The Shakers have always found it hard living in the shadow of the two Manchester giants, United and City, with money often in very short supply around Gigg Lane.
Manager Martin Dobson brought together a team mainly using his Burnley and Everton connections to finish fourth, seven points ahead of fifth-place Hereford to claim their place in the Third Division.
Former Claret Dobson raided Turf Moor for Joe Jakub, Leighton James, Terry Pashley and Kevin Young,who were to play key roles in their success.
Entwistle, in his second spell at the club, and home-grown talent Craig Madden earned their place in Bury folklore with 43 goals between them.
Madden and Entwistle, who scored 21 that season, were two of just 16 players used by Dobson, who didn’t even have a reserve team at his disposal.
“Money is always tight at Bury. You are obviously in the shadows of United and City, and a lot of people in the town used to go to watch them,” said Entwistle.
“I used to do the same as a boy.I’d watch Bury one week but I’d also go down to Manchester United the next week.
“I’d see George Best score great goals, like he did against Sheffield United which was recently voted in the best six goals he scored.”
Entwistle doesn’t think it was such a surprise that they won promotion despite their lack of numbers – because of Dobson’s homework.
“I don’t think scrapping the reserve team that year was Martin’s idea, it was possibly taken the year before,” said Entwistle.
“But it wasn’t really a shock getting promotion.We had an up-andcoming manager in Martin and an excellent coach in Frank Casper.
“They brought in quality players, experienced players like Leighton James on the left-hand side. Winston White was already there on the right, so it meant you had good service.
“Andy Hill, who came from Manchester United’s youth set-up, was the only inexperienced player they brought in.
“We already had Craig Madden up front who had been a goal machine for the past six or seven years and he just continued what he was doing.
“I’d known from my first spell at the club when we’d played in the reserves together that he was a natural goalscorer and a great player to play with.
“I really enjoyed playing with Craig.You knew if you did enough donkey work throughout a game, he was going to get a goal.
“We were all brought up to play the game correctly, we all had a football brain and ability, we played hard but fair.
“It was just a very good set-up.We played pure football, everything was done right. Discipline was right from the off and that’s why we got through with only 16 players. Martin was big on discipline. There was nothing petty, no talking back and all of those silly things which can end up being costly.”
1. Ray Pointer: England international who also coached at Burnley before opening a sandwich shop. Then managed a sub depot for Gratton Home Shopping.
2. Wilf McGuinness: The physio, who succeeded Sir Matt Busby as Manchester United manager, also took charge of York City. Is now a popular after-dinner speaker.
3. Wayne Entwistle: A Bury-born legend and still lives in the town where he runs his own meat supplies company, Entwistle Fresh Farm Foods.
4. Trevor Ross: The midfielder retired at age 31 to become an HGV driver. Now lives in Bardsley, Lancashire, and works as a transport supervisor in Oldham.
5. Andy Hill: The England youth international became youth development officer at Bury. Is now an agent for a legal, financial and claims management firm in the USA.
6. David Brown: He married an Italian and went to live near Verucchio in Italy where he ran a family hotel. Then opened an English language school.
7. John Bramhall: After gaining a degree, he joined the PFA in 1997 and is currently assistant chief executive in their Manchester office.
8. John Kerr: After retiring, he went to work as youth team coach at Walsall before moving on to Cardiff City. He died suddenly while on holiday in Spain in June 2006, aged 46.
9. Terry Pashley: An England schools international who returned to Burnley as youth team coach and is now professional development phase lead coach.
10. Martin Dobson: The England international also managed Bristol Rovers. Ran a management firm in Bolton, has been Burnley’s director of youth development and a match host at Everton.
11. Frank Casper: Now living in Burnley, who he managed. Went on to become a director of a sportswear company. His son Chris has managed the Shakers.
12. Gary Buckley: Is still living in his native Manchester and works in the building trade. He has also run Salford side De La Salle Veterans in the Bolton Veterans’ League.
13. Kevin Young: Is now back living in County Durham in his native North East. Works as a prison officer.
14. Craig Madden: Another Shakers legend. Was community officer at Blackpool and youth team boss at Stockport. Was Fleetwood Town’s assistant manager and is now youth team manager.
15. Joe Jakub: Lives in Denbigh, North Wales and has been a youth coach, worked for a company supplying windows and doors, and provided stats for the Press Association.
16. Winston White: Owned a restaurant in Padiham but is now back in the Midlands where he became sales manager for a manufacturer of fitness equipment.
17. Chris Grimshaw: Is now living near Blackburn and has worked as a driver for a company called System Hygiene.
18. Leighton James: The Welsh international is now back in Swansea. Has managed a series of Welsh Non-League sides, has worked for BBC Wales and writes a newspaper column.
Chris Cutler: He opened a gym after leaving the professional game and then became a PE teacher at a school near Chester.