Se­bas­tian Gorka

Newsweek - - CONTENTS - —Ja­son Le Miere

His crit­ics have called him a bigot and cast doubt on his cre­den­tials. But within months of join­ing the new ad­min­is­tra­tion, Se­bas­tian Gorka, a self-styled coun­tert­er­ror­ism ex­pert and for­mer edi­tor at Bre­it­bart News, be­came a White House fa­vorite. Pres­i­dent Don­ald Trump loved how he per­formed on tele­vi­sion, ag­gres­sively de­fend­ing the White House on ev­ery­thing from threat­en­ing North Korea to fail­ing to con­demn the bomb­ing of a mosque.

In Au­gust, how­ever, Gorka and his for­mer Bre­it­bart col­league Steve Ban­non got booted out of the White House. Gorka’s gone, but he in­sists he’s not for­got­ten. He claimed a role in craft­ing the pres­i­dent’s fiery speech to the United Na­tions Gen­eral Assem­bly in Septem­ber. [The White House de­nies this.] So as Trump flirts with the Democrats on is­sues such as im­mi­gra­tion, Gorka hasn’t given up on the pres­i­dent’s “America first” agenda—or his role in ad­vanc­ing it. “I guar­an­tee you,” he says, “peo­ple as­so­ci­ated with the orig­i­nal cam­paign will be com­ing back in, or the pres­i­dent will be lean­ing on them more than ever.”

hat gives you the con dence that Trump will de­cide he’s bet­ter off re­turn­ing to his orig­i­nal al­lies?

The pres­i­dent has a very in­ter­est­ing man­age­ment style. He’s com­fort­able with un­usu­ally high lev­els of cre­ative chaos be­neath him, be­cause he sees who’s the best ghter and who makes the best ar­gu­ment. But if he feels he’s be­ing poorly served by his lieu­tenants, he al­lows that frus­tra­tion to in­crease un­til he gets to a point where he takes de­ci­sive ac­tion. I pre­dict he will take de­ci­sive ac­tion to get [rid of] those peo­ple around him who are not serv­ing his orig­i­nal plat­form. That’s just how he works. I pre­dict that there will be some rings in the near fu­ture that come from the pres­i­dent him­self when he re­al­izes just how much he needs the old team to be around him. I’m not mak­ing any pre­dic­tions about Steve and my­self. Whether or not Steve goes back or I go back— this is the long game. We’re in this for eight years and then eight years of Pres­i­dent Pence.

Has Trump done enough to con­demn white su­prem­a­cists?

The pres­i­dent doesn’t have a racist bone in his body. When peo­ple who call them­selves jour­nal­ists have the bare ef­fron­tery—have the au­dac­ity— to call the White House racist, an­ti­Semitic, xeno­pho­bic, when the pres­i­dent’s grand­chil­dren are Ortho­dox Jews, it’s a scan­dal. Th­ese peo­ple have no moral com­pass; they are morally bank­rupt.

“ e’re in this for eight years and then eight years of Pres­i­dent Pence.”

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