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WALL STREET’S HATED BULL MARKET HAS A FRIEND INDEED

Thorne Perkin takes contrarian view of most investors, says stocks are a good long-term play

- Adam Shell @adamshell USA TODAY

Thorne Perkin, president of Papamarkou Wellner Asset Management, can’t understand why most investors don’t like the Wall Street bull and keep dissing it all the time.

“This bull is universall­y loathed and has been hated for years, and I can’t figure out why,” says Perkin, whose firm manages $3.5 billion for high net worth investors around the globe.

Not even declines three of the past four days, two of which were sizable sell-offs, could change his view. Asked if the recent bout of volatility made him rethink his call to hold an above-average helping of stocks in his client portfolios, he shot back, “No. Volatility doesn’t surprise us. We will have more of it.”

The fact is this bull, still within 3% of its record high despite the recent decline, has made a lot of money for investors in the past 71⁄2 years — tripling in value and posting a 224% gain. But a chorus of doubters still warns of trouble ahead for this bull market, which they say is overvalued and propped up by unpreceden­ted stimulus from central banks.

Wall Street heavy-hitters, such as billionair­e investor Carl Icahn, warn of trouble ahead.

“You look at the environmen­t, and I think it is very dangerous,” Icahn said Tuesday at an investment conference sponsored by CNBC and Institutio­n- al Investor. At the same event, Stephen Schwarzman, CEO of private equity firm Blackstone, said the market has gotten a pop from low interest rates and is “a little expensive for his taste.” Hedge fund honcho Ray Dalio of Bridgewate­r Associates warned central bank stimulus is losing its effectiven­ess, putting the debt market in a “dangerous situation.”

Amid the pessimism, Perkin is a confident, unabashed bull, one who sees opportunit­y in stocks where others see risk and regularly spin a bearish storyline of a financial world on the cusp of falling apart. Perkin, in contrast, is a true believer in the longer-term health of the market with a healthy contrarian streak, an anti-pessimist who is now promoting what he says will be a winning investment theme of “U.S. pre-eminence.”

There’s simply too much pessimism masking what’s good in today’s equity market, Perkin says. The lack of irrational exuberance, he says, actually is a good thing.

Perkin ticks off all the things market doubters are scared of: “The bears say, ‘The Fed is going to raise rates. The market’s expensive. We have all these geo-

“The world is not ending. We disagree with the negative tone we continuall­y hear.” Thorne Perkin, president of Papamarkou Wellner Asset Management

political concerns. What will happen if Trump gets in? Is the world going to end?’ All the focus is on negativity and things to worry about.”

Perkin thinks his view will win out and be more profitable than the doom-and-gloom picture painted by pessimists.

“The world is not ending,” Perkin says, adding market positives are being drowned out by a story of fear, such as rising interest rates. “We disagree with the negative tone we continuall­y hear and believe there’s an opportunit­y for a contrarian story with a positive bent on the markets and see attractive investment opportunit­ies in U.S. stocks.”

While most investors worry about the Brexit fallout, immigratio­n issues, an ugly presidenti­al election, domestic terrorism and ISIS, Perkin stresses those and other world problems “do not undermine our thesis of U.S. preeminenc­e.” While he says there’s always a chance for a 5% to 10% market drop (a too-early Fed hike could spark such a decline, as could some other exogenous shock), he says investors should take advantage of fear in the market and buy when prices dip.

He still recommends that his wealthy clients with longer-term investment horizons and the ability to stomach any pullbacks today put 50%-55% of their assets in individual stocks. And when you add in the equity exposure his clients get from alternativ­e investment­s such as hedge funds, clients’ stock exposure rises to roughly 70%-75%, which he says he’s comfortabl­e with.

Buy brand-name U.S. blue chip stocks with staying power, he says. Perkin likes Google, Amazon, Visa, JP Morgan Chase, Exxon-Mobil and Pfizer. He says it doesn’t pay to invest in bonds, given the benchmark 10-year Treasury yields 1.7%, which is less than the yields now paid by many blue chip stocks.

Other reasons why Perkin favors stocks: Corporate earnings season ended up better than feared, and any hint of a rebound in earnings growth will get stock investors excited. He doesn’t see the Fed hiking interest rates until after the November election and expects the central bank to remain very accommodat­ive.

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CHANI CHURCHILL “Volatility doesn’t scare us,” says Thorne Perkin, whose firm manages $3.5 billion for high net worth investors. “We will have more of it.”

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