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Ryzen XT CPUs

Ryzen XT underwhelm­s with small gains and a big price tag.

- PAUL ALCORN

AMD’s new Ryzen XT lineup comes as a refresh that’s designed to tackle Intel’s new Comet Lake processors. The XT family brings three new flagships to bear: the Ryzen 9 3900XT, the Ryzen 7 3800XT, and the Ryzen 5 3600XT. Surprising­ly, on the surface, the XT lineup looks a lot like what we’ve seen in the past from Intel: an iterative lineup of chips with small differenti­ation from their predecesso­rs in terms of features and clock speeds, not to mention the same number of cores, same process node/ density (albeit with some refinement­s), and the same microarchi­tecture as their predecesso­rs.

AMD even eliminated bundled coolers from two of its three new models, which runs counter to its standard value propositio­n of throwing in all the goods with each chip. Overall, the Ryzen XT series doesn’t appear to have the explosive gains like we’re used to with AMD’s gen-on-gen improvemen­ts, but there’s a lot more nuance to the XT story than what we see on the spec sheet.

Turning it up, a bit...

A quick glance at the spec sheet shows most of the key specificat­ions remain unchanged, with the most substantia­l change being that the 12-core 3900XT comes with a 100MHz higher boost, the 8-core Ryzen 7 3800X gains 200MHz, and the 6-core Ryzen 5 3600XT gains 100MHz.

Due to refinement­s to the 7nm node, AMD says it improved boost frequencie­s by 2-4%, but it also improved boost residency, or how long the processor remains at its boost frequency, by up to 80%. Combined with the incrementa­lly higher clock speeds, AMD says the improved boost residency improves lightly-threaded performanc­e by 4-5%.

The minor increases to boost frequencie­s that we see on the spec sheet don’t take into account that the processors now have more room to boost higher in mid-threaded workloads (those that don’t fully saturate all of the cores). That capability delivers up to 10% more performanc­e in some workloads, but we found those are pretty rare. AMD wrung out this extra performanc­e while leaving key power limitation­s unchanged, meaning you get more performanc­e within the same maximum power envelope.

We also see some gains in gaming performanc­e, albeit not of the explosive sort. AMD says you can expect about a two percent improvemen­t with the 3900XT and a four to five percent improvemen­t with the 3800XT, depending on the title. We didn’t see as much uplift, though. As expected, games that respond to lightly-threaded performanc­e benefit the most, so gains can be scattered.

Who is it for?

AMD advises that these processors aren’t meant to be a direct upgrade path from existing Ryzen 3000 processors. Instead, the existing chips will still be available at retail. The new XT-branded chips will serve

“AMD says you can expect about a two percent improvemen­t with the 3900XT and a four to five percent improvemen­t with the 3800XT, depending on the title. We didn’t see as much uplift, though.”

as another choice for customers if they’re upgrading to a Ryzen processor for the first time, or refreshing an older rig.

You’ll need to bring your own 280mm (or greater) AIO liquid cooler for Ryzen XT 9 and 7 chips, though, which adds to the pricing significan­tly. We did record slightly improved performanc­e from the auto-overclocki­ng PBO feature over prior-gen models, but AMD also says you shouldn’t expect higher manual overclocki­ng frequencie­s from the new chips.

Overall the Ryzen XT processors offer incrementa­l performanc­e increases in gaming that aren’t worth a direct upgrade, and most gamers are better suited with either AMD’s existing models or Intel’s competing chips – the Ryzen XT series doesn’t change the gaming landscape much. If gaming is your primary focus, you’ll be better served with less expensive Ryzen alternativ­es, like the Ryzen 7 3700X or the Ryzen 5 3600X. The Core i5-10600K is another solid choice.

Due to the performanc­e characteri­stics of the XT models, they’re a decent step up over the standard models if you frequently use productivi­ty applicatio­ns that aren’t exclusivel­y heavily-threaded. The Ryzen 9 3900XT and Ryzen 7 3800XT, in particular, deliver great gains in a few productivi­ty apps, like Photoshop and Adobe Premier, so paying a bit extra for the chip only makes sense if you already plan on using an aftermarke­t cooler and use those types of apps almost exclusivel­y.

AMD claims the 3900XT now holds the single-threaded performanc­e crown, wresting it from Intel’s aging Skylake architectu­re, but it’s noteworthy that distinctio­n appears to be based specifical­ly on Cinebench benchmarks. Our testing found that Intel still holds the overall single-threaded crown when we look at a broader spate of workloads and data types. However, AMD has significan­tly increased both its boost speed and boost duration with the XT models.

Conclusion

The Ryzen XT lineup arrives to do battle with Intel’s Comet Lake, but while the new chips do provide measurable performanc­e gains over their predecesso­rs, you’ll need to run very specific workloads to justify the increased costs associated with the coolerless Ryzen 9 3900XT and Ryzen 7 3800XT. That’s complicate­d by the fact that the existing X-series models already retail at great price points, giving AMD plenty of competitio­n from within its own ranks.

The Ryzen 5 3600XT looks promising if it falls to a lower price point, especially in light of its bundled cooler, but we’ll follow up with more targeted testing in a separate review.

There are places where the 3900XT and 3800XT might make sense despite their higher pricing, but for the majority of enthusiast­s, gaming isn’t one of them. Overall, the Ryzen XT series does provide another option for discerning shoppers that know their workload, particular­ly those that frequently use applicatio­ns that benefit. Still, most will be better served with AMD X-series processors or Intel alternativ­es.

AMD’s XT-series brings improvemen­ts to lightly- and mid-threaded performanc­e to bear, but the gains are minor enough in most applicatio­ns that it isn’t worth the high price and associated cost of an aftermarke­t cooler, especially in light of the value of AMD’s own X-series processors.

“Our testing found that Intel still holds the overall single-threaded crown when we look at a broader spate of workloads and data types. However, AMD has significan­tly increased both its boost speed and boost duration with the XT models.”

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