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Here’s how fast the 2018 Macbook Pro 15 will be

Apple’s Macbook Pro 15 gets a shiny new CPU, but it still won’t be faster than a PC.

- BY GORDON MAH UNG

With Apple announcing recently that it has dropped a 6-core 8th-gen Core i7 8750H into the Macbook Pro 15 ( go.pcworld.com/clmp), there are two things we know for sure: The first is that the boost in performanc­e ( go.pcworld.com/8gip) will be huge. The second—it still won’t be faster than the fastest PC laptops.

Sure, you could say we’re just being haters because we heart PC. But unlike the ipad and iphone, Apple doesn’t make its own CPUS. It relies on the same ones PC laptops have been using since at least April. All of the

testing we’ve done already on Intel’s 8th-gen Kaby Lake R (reviewed at go.pcworld.com/ kbrv), the 8th-gen Kaby Lake G (reviewed at go.pcworld.com/kgrv), and the 8th-gen Coffee Lake H (reviewed at go.pcworld.com/ chrv) lets us say with high confidence just how fast the new 2018 Macbook Pro 15 will be when it ships.

The big news for Apple users is the six cores in the Core i7-8750h.

Those two additional cores compared to quad-core parts means hefty improvemen­ts in 3D modeling, video editing, and many optimized photo editing tasks.

WE COMPARE 7TH-GEN AND 8TH-GEN CPUS

To show the performanc­e we expect, we’ve compiled the results from several laptops equipped with high-end 7th-gen CPUS, including the quad-core Core I7-7700HQ that’s used in the 2017 Macbook Pro 15. We’ll compare them to the results from a laptop with the 8th-gen Core i7-8750h in the new 2018 Macbook Pro 15.

Our first comparison runs Maxon’s Cinebench R15, which tests 3D modeling performanc­e. You can see about a 50 percent increase in performanc­e between the six-core Core i7-8750h and the typical 7th-gen part, such as that Core I7-7700HQ.

We won’t bore you with too many charts

of the 8th-gen Core i7-8750h’s multithrea­ded prowess, as you can see them on page 91. You’ll see varying amounts of performanc­e gains based on how optimized the CPUS are, but the story is still the same:

It’s a ton faster.

For example, here’s how the same CPU performs in video encoding. While you don’t get quite a 50 percent improvemen­t, it’s still about 33 percent, which means that a comparable three-hour encode could be done in about two hours. When you’re in the field on a shoot, and time is money, then yeah, that’s more money.

The world isn’t about multi-threaded

performanc­e, though, and very few applicatio­ns actually can use all six cores in the new Macbook Pro 15. So to get an idea of how an 8th-gen Core i7 Coffee Lake H stacks up against a 7th-gen Core i7 Kaby Lake H part, we also run Cinebench R15 using just one CPU core. While not all applicatio­ns perform the same, we do get an idea of how fast the new chip does in pedestrian, single-threaded tasks, such as Microsoft Word, Safari, and most applicatio­ns.

For the most part, the new 8th-gen Core i7 still gives decent performanc­e benefits over the older 7th-gen Core i7 CPUS.

To get further insight into how the new 8th-gen CPUS behave under particular loads, we varied Cinebench R15 from 1 thread to 12. The verdict is simple: The 8th-gen Core i7 Coffee Lake H has a decent performanc­e advantage on lightly threaded tasks (the left side of the chart below), and a huge performanc­e advantage once you get to tasks that can use all of those CPU cores.

While not all tasks are the same, the secret to the performanc­e of the new 8th-gen Core i7 is megahertz. That’s another distinct advantage the 2018 Macbook Pro 15, with its clock-speedrich Core i7-8750h, will have over a 2017 Macbook Pro 15 with a Core I7-7700HQ in it.

The big unknown in this is how hard Apple decides to push that CPU. Both results here are from gaming-focused laptops, but both are also relatively thin, as we expect the Macbook Pro 15 to be. The Core i7-8750h result is from a four-pound MSI GS65 Stealth Thin, while the Core I7-7700HQ performanc­e is from the previous-generation Asus ROG Zephyrus.

What we do know from previous Macbook Pro laptops is that Apple generally does not like to leave performanc­e untapped, so we expect it to swing for the fences.

THE PC IS STILL FASTER THAN MACBOOK PRO 15

So after seeing these results, how can we say for a fact that the new 2018 Macbook Pro 15 won’t be faster than PC laptops? For one

thing, PCS offer larger form factors that let the 8th-gen CPUS run even faster. Also, the graphics in the new 2018 Macbook Pro 15 haven’t changed much.

Apple is apparently still relying on the elderly AMD Radeon Pro lineup for graphics. In the single laptop our sister site Macworld saw, the unit had a Radeon Pro 555X in it. Despite the X, it’s the same old thing. AMD just added the X to make everyone feel better. It’s actually a decent discrete GPU, but in pure performanc­e, it’s not going to win any contests beyond tasks heavily optimized for it.

To give you an idea how much graphics firepower are in PC laptops, the above chart shows the raw gaming performanc­e of most of today’s modern graphics cards. Based on what we’re seeing with the Polaris-based GPU in the Core i7-8705g, with 20 compute units buffed with High Bandwidth Cache and HBM2 RAM, we’d expect the Polaris-based Radeon Pro 555X, with its 12 compute units and GDDR5 RAM, to be slower by a bit.

LET’S GIVE APPLE A SHOUT-OUT

While it’s easy for PC partisans to issue a Simpsons’ Nelson Muntz–like “ha ha,” we should be fair and give Apple its due credit. Even with its flawed keyboard, the Macbook Pro 15 has been an impressive­ly thin laptop with relatively good battery life for its power ratio.

And yes, PC laptops have been using 8th-gen Core i7 CPUS for more than three months now. But to have Apple upgrade the Macbook Pro 15 to a CPU that came out just three months ago, rather than dragging it out for another six or nine months, is actually a huge improvemen­t in responsive­ness from the company.

It’s hard to believe, but it’s entirely possible that Apple may have finally woken up, which means PC laptop makers may finally see their old slumbering foe for another fight.

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 ??  ?? A new 8th-gen Core i7-8750h in the 2018 Macbook Pro 15 would give you about a 50-percent performanc­e increase over the previous Macbook Pro 15 (represente­d by the Core i7-7700hq-equipped laptop shown here) in multi-threaded tasks.
A new 8th-gen Core i7-8750h in the 2018 Macbook Pro 15 would give you about a 50-percent performanc­e increase over the previous Macbook Pro 15 (represente­d by the Core i7-7700hq-equipped laptop shown here) in multi-threaded tasks.
 ??  ?? Handbrakes sees about a 33-percent buff by going from a 7th-gen Core i7 to an 8th-gen Core i7.
Handbrakes sees about a 33-percent buff by going from a 7th-gen Core i7 to an 8th-gen Core i7.
 ??  ?? Thanks to very high clock speeds when given lightly threaded tasks such as browsing or Microsoft Word, the 8th-gen Core i7 Coffee Lake H CPU in the new Macbook Pro 15 will be faster than its direct predecesso­r.
Thanks to very high clock speeds when given lightly threaded tasks such as browsing or Microsoft Word, the 8th-gen Core i7 Coffee Lake H CPU in the new Macbook Pro 15 will be faster than its direct predecesso­r.
 ??  ?? The 8th-gen Core i7 leads the way in single-threaded tasks.
The 8th-gen Core i7 leads the way in single-threaded tasks.
 ??  ?? You can see the clock speed advantage of an 8th gen Core i7 over the 7th gen Core i7 illustrate­d above on light loads (left) and heavy loads (right.).
You can see the clock speed advantage of an 8th gen Core i7 over the 7th gen Core i7 illustrate­d above on light loads (left) and heavy loads (right.).
 ??  ?? The Radeon Pro 555X in the new 2018 Macbook Pro 15 should fall below that of the Kaby Lake G-series of chips in the HP Spectre x360 15. That’s not bad, but it ain’t no Geforce GTX 1080.
The Radeon Pro 555X in the new 2018 Macbook Pro 15 should fall below that of the Kaby Lake G-series of chips in the HP Spectre x360 15. That’s not bad, but it ain’t no Geforce GTX 1080.

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