Qantas

Banking on change

Fredrik Lindström joined the Commonweal­th Bank as CDO in 2020, the same year it invested in buy-now, pay-later service Klarna and launched venture-building entity x15venture­s.

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A consulting firm once described the role of chief digital officer as having a limited lifespan because once digitalisa­tion is embedded across the organisati­on, their job is done. Is that true?

A common misconcept­ion is that digitalisa­tion is taking what you’ve always done and making it digital. But you reach a pivot point when the amount of digital capabiliti­es available creates new digital opportunit­ies that never existed in the physical world. For example, it used to be that a net bank looked like a virtual branch – and that was useful – but now you can easily connect the bank and customers’ environmen­ts with, say, accounts payable and accounts receivable; the customers’ ERP [enterprise resource planning] systems could be connected. You can generate value that simply wasn’t achievable before.

What types of technology are you most excited about?

This is perhaps a disappoint­ing answer: data – transformi­ng data into insights and informatio­n. People are still people in the digital world. Everyone wants to be recognised for the individual they are. Banking was obsessed with fintechs a few years ago because they’re good at providing a personalis­ed digital experience. If you don’t know anything about your customer, you’ll provide an anonymous, irrelevant digital experience, which you have to avoid at all costs.

Do you encounter innovation­s that customers aren’t ready for?

In banking, we have an important role to play in that. Some of the things you allow – and almost expect – Google or Facebook to do for you are a no-go zone for us. We have to remain a trusted entity.

What, apart from the COVID-19 pandemic, is changing customer expectatio­ns?

The expectatio­ns of a digital experience are set by somebody else and have been for years. When you have a great online experience on Amazon, you expect the banking digital experience to be on a par. As digital services get connected, it’s becoming increasing­ly easy [for customers] to source from many parties and the benefits of being a universal financial-services provider diminish. So the user experience is absolutely king.

What’s the biggest challenge of your role?

The technologi­cal innovation around us is far more than we could ever digest or pretend to understand so we have to remain focused. If things aren’t relevant [to the bank], we have to have the courage to say, “You know what? Fascinatin­g technology but for our purpose and our customers, that won’t generate substantia­l benefits in the next two years. Therefore, we’re going to park it and revisit it.” We need to forget this fear of missing out.

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