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Why you should or shouldn’t buy a GeForce RTX laptop

It’s the future! But is it your future? GORDON MAH UNG reports

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Nvidia’s GeForce RTX GPU for laptops has arrived, hot on the heels of its announceme­nt at CES. Unfortunat­ely, all the hand-wringing and chest-beating that surrounded the original GeForce RTX has followed. It may magnify further with the newest GeForce RTX laptop GPUs, as detractors look for more evidence that Nvidia’s pursuit of a hybrid ray tracing future is the wrong path.

While it’s far too early to pass any judgment on GeForce RTX in laptops, we can at least walk you through the reasons you may actually want to buy a GeForce RTX-based laptop – or not.

Reasons to buy a GeForce RTX laptop

Put on your green T-shirt and queue up the ray tracing demos so you can rub your friends’ faces in them. Yes, if you’re a fan of what Nvidia has achieved with ray tracing, here are some of the reasons you might just want to buy a GeForce RTX laptop.

RTX is the fastest gaming laptop GPU in town

One of the biggest reasons to buy a new laptop with GeForce RTX is they’re likely to be faster than previousge­neration laptops. For example, the MSI GS75 Stealth that we just tested (read our review on page 13), with an RTX 2080 Max-Q, is clearly faster than GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q laptops we’ve seen. In fact, in several benchmarks, the GS75 Stealth is faster than laptops that weigh 50 percent more, and feature much hotter and power-hungry graphics cards inside.

Much of that performanc­e we’ve seen is based on today’s convention­al gaming – that is, games that don’t use hybrid ray tracing. Even if ray tracing is the future, you’ll still be playing these games for a while.

For example, check out the pure graphics performanc­e results from 3DMark Time Spy, which gives the RTX 2080 Max-Q a definite lead over all other laptops we’ve seen lately. While we haven’t seen a fulltilt GeForce RTX 2080 laptop yet, we imagine that in, say, an Alienware Area-51m, that 2080 might sing.

You want a thin and light, yet powerful gaming laptop

While thin-and-light gaming laptops aren’t exclusivel­y GeForce RTX-based, the push for making more of them is kicking into high gear with this generation. In fact, Nvidia said of the 40 laptops that support RTX, 17 will use the Max-Q version, which means they’re going to be thin. The thin-and-light gaming choices will simply be better on models with GeForce RTX.

Ray tracing is the future

Hybrid ray tracing is either the future of PC gaming or its bane, depending on who’s talking. After seeing Nvidia’s hybrid ray tracing demos though, you’re sold. We’ve seen them too, and ray tracing represents a true

night-and-day difference when fully implemente­d. Put simply, buying a GeForce RTX laptop ‘future-proofs’ you for that shiny and reflective day, justifying the cash output now rather than later. The above chart, for example, shows how a GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q laptop stacks up in 3DMark’s Port Royal ray tracing test.

Sure, that’s not a stupendous score, but for all those other, non-ray-tracing laptops, 0 times 0 is zero.

GeForce RTX laptops may be surprising­ly quiet

One thing we haven’t mentioned is just how wellbehave­d a GeForce RTX Max-Q laptop can be. By well-behaved, we mean a laptop that’s so quiet, even when running a game, that you may wonder whether something is wrong – as we initially did when we tested the MSI GS75 Stealth. Not every GeForce RTX Max-Q laptop will be as discreet, but if you can find one that

whispers while still belting out more frames than a GeForce GTX 1080, then that’s a win.

You really can’t lose on GeForce RTX

One of the arguments against buying into GeForce RTX has been the lack of game support. While we agree that’s a valid point, the counterpoi­nt is you don’t really give up anything. Above is another chart that shows you where a GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q laptop sits even without that hybrid ray tracing or DLSS support. No matter what, GeForce RTX laptops are likely to outpace the generation they just replaced, so you’re still going forward and you’re ‘ready for the future’.

Reasons not to buy a GeForce RTX laptop

We just gave you plenty of truly legitimate reasons to buy a new GeForce RTX laptop, but there are also

plenty of reasons we can give you not to buy one. So let’s run through the fear, uncertaint­y, and doubt tree and ruin your RTX fantasy.

GTX 10-series laptops are plenty fast and a lot cheaper today

Although Nvidia hasn’y disclosed the price difference between the older 10-series laptops and its new 20-series laptops, we’ve had vendors tell us that it’s not the huge sticker shock desktop gamers got. In fact, around a hundred pounds is what we’ve loosely settled on for the price difference. We also know that laptops with GeForce GTX, not RTX, are where the deals are today. We’ve seen GTX 1060 Max-Q laptops in the

£1,500 range, with GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q laptops available for several hundred pounds less than one with a GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q. Think of it this way: it’s always easier to make a deal on end-of-model-year cars than the ones coming in for next year. The performanc­e of GTX 10-series laptops remains good enough that we wouldn’t feel bad pocketing the difference.

GeForce RTX is a dismal failure

Even fans of Nvidia’s GeForce RTX initiative can admit there is a significan­t resistance to the company’s RTX line of cards. In fact, the company itself had to say as much when updating investors recently by saying: “In addition, sales of certain high-end GPUs using Nvidia’s new Turing architectu­re were lower than expected. These products deliver a revolution­ary leap in performanc­e and innovation with real-time ray tracing and AI, but some customers may have delayed their purchase while waiting for lower price points and further demonstrat­ions of RTX technology in actual games.” As a certified hater of all things ray tracing, you’re sure this is going to fizzle out. Those who buy into RTX are going to be left with expensive GPUs and nothing to do. While that’s probably going to make some fans of technology and PC gaming sad, everyone is entitled to decide how to spend their cash.

One word: AMD

AMD CPUs have rocked Intel’s world the past few years. Many expect the company to finally get back into the graphics game enough to hassle Nvidia, too. Whether that extends to gaming laptops – particular­ly

high-end ones – anytime soon is an unknown. But with the company’s Radeon VII breaking cover, maybe, just maybe, this will be the year we see some serious competitio­n.

Ray tracing performanc­e of RTX laptops sucks

While desktop RTX performanc­e on convention­al games is splendid, the unknown is how well it will translate across all of the the different laptop GPUs, and across future shipping games with RTX support. What we do know is GeForce RTX parts are mostly transplant­s of the desktop versions in feature set. Where they fall behind is in power and thermal limitation­s. That’s a fancy way to say slower clock speeds. A GeForce RTX 2080 can have a boost clock as low as 1,095MHz, technicall­y, compared to a desktop’s 1,800MHz.

Those swings will vary from laptop to laptop based on design. After flipping on the DirectX Ray Trace switch with Battlefiel­d V on a £2,939 MSI GS75 Stealth with GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, we saw performanc­e go from 90- to 45 fps. That’s just painful. Running 3DMark’s Port Royal Ray Trace test also put the GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q uncomforta­bly close to the desktop GeForce RTX 2060.

These might be early hardware bugs to be shaken off, but if you’re the kind of nerd whose glass is halfempty and shattered on the ground, you’ll likely want to wait and see how full-power RTX laptops perform.

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If GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q outpaces all others, then you can probably safely assume the clocked versions will rock everyone’s world
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This Star Wars demonstrat­ion of hybrid ray tracing has at least some people believing in its future
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Here’s the argument for why the GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q is infinitely better than laptops using last generation GeForce graphics cards
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 ??  ?? Besides the ray traced flames in this demo shot from Battlefiel­d V, there may be a little tear forming too because of all the hate over RTX
Besides the ray traced flames in this demo shot from Battlefiel­d V, there may be a little tear forming too because of all the hate over RTX

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