The Australian Women's Weekly

MISS DALLY’S GIRLS:

In an intimate tête-à-tête, June Dally-Watkins, her daughter and her granddaugh­ter speak with Susan Chenery about mothers and the myth that we can have it all.

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three generation­s of Dally-Watkins ‘girls’ compare notes

Miss June Dally-Watkins’ smile never falters. Ever. Neither does her posture nor her poise. There is no slumping in Miss Dally's world; no vulgar cleavage or, gasp, tattoos. Instead there are pearls, always pearls, and immaculate make-up in the afternoon as she takes your arm to walk down the street.

You feel your back getting straighter as you listen to her perfectly enunciated vowels; your manners being minded. You wonder if you could ever have the discipline to be so endlessly gracious. At a graduation ceremony for her personal developmen­t students in Brisbane, she is regal; the queen of the correct way to do things; a tiny love bomb of formidable femininity.

“The greatest gift of all is love. We have to love ourselves to love others, to show kindness,” she tells the graduates. “And don’t look false.”

As they have for more than six decades, her newly demure girls will sally forth with their heads up and shoulders back, knowing their table manners, how to carry themselves, how to be confident, how not to be “common”. “How,” she says, “to be the best that they can be.”

Miss Dally was once Australia’s most photograph­ed model and when she launched her School of Deportment, in 1950, she became the first Australian woman to open a corporate business and, controvers­ially for that time, a mother of four who kept working.

For being a career woman and working mother, she received abuse and criticism, hate mail calling her a bad mother, phone calls saying her children would end up delinquent. “I was made to feel a failure as a wife and mother,” she writes in her memoir, Still Smiling, “but I resolved to never give up the right to live my own life.”

When she was a child, Lisa Clifford, Miss Dally’s youngest, “didn’t really know or care” that her famous, glamorous mother had once gone out with the movie star Gregory Peck. “The only way that it affected me was on the rare occasions she came to a school play – all the girls would strike poses in the hope that she would

choose them to be a model.” But she says, “she was battling a whole lot of different stigmas. People didn’t know what models were or agencies were; they viewed them with suspicion; something akin to loose women.”

Lisa believes that what has driven her mother all these years, what that smile has been hiding, the reason for her determined self-reliance, is the struggle of her childhood. Far from the world of high society that she would come to epitomise, Miss Dally grew up an “illegitima­te” child on a remote sheep farm at Watson’s Creek, NSW, at a time when single mothers were social and moral outcasts. “So I masked my shame and buried my self-consciousn­ess with a smile,” she writes in her memoir. “Something I have done all my life.”

“She has an extraordin­ary iron will,” Lisa tells The Weekly. “Her life has been a battle for legitimacy. That is the core reason for this molten steel determinat­ion. She had a tough, tough childhood and it was always a battle. The stigma around illegitima­cy – I never appreciate­d, as her daughter, the inner conflict that gave her. She is not at all bulletproo­f. She has genuine fears that drive her. But if you look at it for what it is, it is an illegitima­te child from Watson’s Creek, who has no claim to be the doyen, yet she has forged this crown for herself. She has made that from nothing, and that is extraordin­ary.”

Miss Dally’s mother’s own dreams of travel and becoming somebody had been thwarted by her unwed pregnancy, but together they would walk the two kilometres to the post office to pick up magazines, including The Weekly, and dream of being like the women in those glossy pages. Carrying her mother’s dreams, Miss Dally would go on to be a frequent Women’s Weekly cover girl.

“I grew up on a sheep farm with my grandparen­ts, but even though I was out there chasing sheep and shooting rabbits, my mother always insisted that I had good posture and good manners. And she always insisted that I spoke well. She would say, ‘One day you might travel the world.’ I was the same with my children because I wanted them to do well in life.”

And at 92 – she will only admit to 25 – Miss Dally is still travelling the world, running her school and charity in China, still charming everyone she meets – indefatiga­ble.

It hasn’t always been easy. Miss

Dally admits she couldn’t always be there for her children. “I was often working. I ran classes in the evening and school holidays.”

Lisa remembers her mother as “always working, always trying to juggle. I remember the times when she tried to visit my brother at boarding school every weekend and tried to take us to mass on a Sunday night and tried to cook us dinner. If you have four children and you have the ambition that my mother had, my belief is that you cannot have it all. Women can’t sadly. You can’t be June Dally-Watkins, with two boys and two girls, while you are trying to establish a deportment school in Queensland and NSW, and take fashion tours all over Asia to promote Australian fashion. Somewhere along the line someone is going to suffer. It is either the mother or the children who wear the consequenc­es of those decisions.”

In the end, after some disastrous nanny experience­s – including one who stole her jewellery and another who threw wild parties while she was away – the children were sent to boarding schools. Lisa was only six when she was sent to board, during the difficult time of her parents’ divorce. Her older sister, Carel, who was also a boarder, became her “surrogate mother and took care of me. She did my hair every morning.”

When she was nine, Lisa moved to Gib Gate school at Mittagong in the NSW Southern Highlands, and she says: “Nobody visited me or anything like that. But this is not a misery memoir in any way, shape or form. I thrived on routine, on schedule and an organised lifestyle. I needed that structure. It was much better than being a latch-key kid, with a nanny having parties.”

Even though her time with her children was “sacrificed”, Miss Dally says she tried to provide the best for them materially. “They had enviable compensati­ons – a privileged upbringing, a wonderful home, exclusive private school education, internatio­nal travel and as much love as I could give them.”

And were Miss Dally’s children expected to uphold her impeccable standards? “Oh they had to behave themselves, yes they did.” Says Lisa: “I always wanted the mum who was home baking cookies, yet I never doubted that she loved me. To achieve what she has and have four kids, she clearly couldn’t have been the mum at home baking cookies. Mum fought the war of having a right to work and having a voice. She took the territory in battle terms that her generation were fighting.”

Miss Dally once debated Germaine Greer on The Mike Walsh Show, and came off decidedly second best. Lisa knew then that she was going to be more of a Germaine girl than a Miss Dally girl. “It was the first time I was ever exposed to my mother being held for more than questionin­g. Watching that happen to her brought out a lot of loyalty to her, but it also made me question the good girl point of view. I could see that what Germaine said was more important than the way she looked while saying it.”

When she was 13, Lisa became a day girl at Rose Bay Convent. At 16, without a parent supervisin­g homework, falling behind and terrified of the HSC, she persuaded her parents to let her take a gap year in Italy, where Carel was working in a prestigiou­s model agency. “I was gangly, pimply, almost six feet tall. I never felt beautiful enough, definitely. By leaving and coming to Italy, I could be myself,” Lisa admits.

“She wanted to be independen­t,” says Miss Dally. “She wanted to be her own person. I respected that. I think that is fair and reasonable. She didn’t want to be me again – she wanted to be herself. Lisa was always caring and very intelligen­t.”

It was in Florence that Lisa met local Paolo Consumi, then a medical student, and began the lifelong love affair, the saga, that she wrote about in her best-selling book, The Promise.

With a mother who was blazing the trail of an independen­t working woman, she was bound to come into conflict with a culture where women were still in the kitchen. As much as she loved Paolo and Tuscany, as much as she was embraced by his family, she missed Australia and knew she needed a career, an education.

“I’m an Aussie girl,” she wrote, “a Bondi bather, a beer in the garden kind of girl.” She missed the cicadas, the beaches, her family. For 18 years, they went back and forth between Sydney and Florence, between worlds that were polar opposite. “Oh, for God’s sake, Lisa,” she writes at one point, “make a decision. Do you want to live in Italy or Australia?”

There were long periods without contact with Paolo. She studied at the Australian Film, Television and Radio School, and worked in radio. Then she would give it up for Florence and Paolo. A wedding was called off over

“I never felt beautiful enough, definitely.”

her refusal to be an Italian wife, putting three meals on the table every day while he did as he pleased.

“I remember flying over for her wedding, but when I arrived, it was postponed,” says Miss Dally. “She had decided not to marry Paolo.”

When she left that time, Lisa swore it was for good. She promised his father she would never return, she would let Paolo go. She became a reporter for Network 10 and later a producer. It was five years before she was back in Florence on a writing assignment and tentativel­y contacted Paolo. Paolo told her he had realised his mistakes and understood why she left. He had been wrong to expect Lisa to be a dependent Italian wife; he had changed. They fell in love all over again. Their daughter, Natalia, was conceived two months later.

Miss Dally was there for the birth of her only granddaugh­ter. “The moment she was born, they gave her to me and I walked around the hospital with the baby,” she says. “She wouldn’t have missed that,” Lisa adds. Their son, Leo, would follow two years later. Miss Dally also has seven other grandsons.

Lisa has written four non-fiction books including The Promise and Death in the Mountains, which solved a 100-year-old murder in Paolo’s family, and is now completing her first novel. She also runs a writing retreat, The Art of Writing.

Lisa has been a different, more present mother than Miss Dally. “I chose a career that would be able to move with me, where I could work from home,” she says. “When the kids came home from school, it was pens aside and keyboards down. I’ve always been with my kids.”

Natalia, now 20, is the beneficiar­y of three generation­s of strong women, including her Italian nonna. She has just completed a degree in internatio­nal relations in London, and is heading towards working in human rights. She already has a start-up which aims to provide affordable electricit­y to people in Malawi and Zimbabwe, countries where up to 88 per cent of the population doesn’t have power at all.

She’s been to China to work with Crossroads, the charity Miss Dally is ambassador for, and teach at her school.

To her, Miss Dally is a grandmothe­r. “I didn’t have access to the whole hype around Nonna,” she says, but still ... “When I see her I am on my best behaviour: no burgers, nothing like that. If I were to have a burger, it would be with a knife and a fork.”

She believes Miss Dally is often misunderst­ood in Australia. “A lot of comments are negative: ‘Women today shouldn’t have this attitude. Women shouldn’t be about etiquette’. But if she has influenced me in any way, it’s in the role of female empowermen­t.”

Natalia has seen Miss Dally’s impact in China. “At the end, the girls just cry. They hug her and say, ‘I have learned so much about accepting myself.’ One of the things we discovered there was the extent of depression in kids not reaching parents’ expectatio­ns ... Nonna says: ‘Don’t rely on what your parents want you to do – do what you want to do.’ Nonna is trying to spread that message, more than any other.”

Lisa was trained to be the superbly put together Miss Dally woman who turns heads as she walks into a room, and she is. As far as the famous poise is concerned, she says, “I can turn it on and turn it off.” But that’s not all her mother has taught her. “She has always tried to go deeper and add more layers to it,” Lisa says. “Be honest, be genuine. And being the best you can be is about finding your own path. She always taught me that manners are about being considerat­e.”

And after the years of quiet rebellion, Lisa feels she has come to a comfortabl­e place in her relationsh­ip with her mother, and she can admit that, “In the end, all children do is try to seek their parents’ approval. I have my mother’s approval and I’m happy.”

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Clockwise: Miss Dally on The Weekly’s cover; as businesswo­man; with three of her four children, including Lisa.
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Above: Miss Dally dated movie star Gregory Peck. Right: Miss Dally as an in-demand model.
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Above: Lisa, her daughter, Natalia, and Miss Dally enjoy afternoon tea. Left: Lisa’s son Leo. Right: Lisa wrote a book, The Promise, about her love for Paolo.
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