The Gold Coast Bulletin

Fears of illegal phone tapping

- RYAN KEEN ryan.keen@news.com.au

A PAIR of Gold Coast defence lawyers are concerned at what they say is increasing reliance by police on compromise­d informants to get conviction­s. Jason Murakami and Campbell MacCallum, commenting on the Lawyex X scandal in Melbourne, say it creates a fertile environmen­t for unsafe conviction­s. Mr Murakami, a co-founder of Griffith University’s Innocence Project for those wrongly convicted, said: “Old coppers used to investigat­e, gather evidence, issue a charge and go through the process. The new way of investigat­ion is find someone associated, put pressure on them saying ‘We’re aware you’ve done X Y Z so unless you give us what we want we are going to charge and prosecute you’. It’s dangerous methodolog­y.” TOP criminal lawyers fear “illegal” phone taps are compromisi­ng conversati­ons with high-profile clients and say they only talk face to face nowadays.

As fallout continued yesterday from revelation­s Victoria Police deployed a Melbourne gangland lawyer as an informant against her own clients, Gold Coast lawyers raised concerns their phones were increasing­ly being tapped by law enforcemen­t in Queensland.

A Royal Commission is scheduled next year in Melbourne to examine police use of so-called Lawyer X to inform on drug trade bigwigs, with conviction­s of Tony Mokbel and Pasquale “Pat’’ Barbaro expected to be challenged.

Top Gold Coast defence lawyers Campbell MacCallum and Jason Murakami both say they now never discuss substantiv­e matters or instructio­ns over the phone with accused clients.

Mr MacCallum, of Moloney MacCallum Abdelshahi­ed, is representi­ng Harley Barbaro in the first challenge to Queensland anti-consorting laws and said he was wary about what he discussed with clients via mobile phone.

“Mr Barbaro and I do not, and nor would I with any of my clients, receive instructio­ns over the phone. That would be blatant negligence and not acting in the best interests of the client.

“That’s not paranoia, that’s being intelligen­t,” he said.

“I’ve no doubt any criminal lawyer representi­ng serious or high-profile clients should assume their phone calls are illegally being listened into and no one will ever be the wiser. The intel would be priceless.”

Asked about the fears, a Queensland Police Service spokesman said: “A vast array of investigat­ive strategies is used by QPS in the investigat­ion of serious and organised crime.

“Defence lawyers should be well aware there are specific legislativ­e protection­s for privileged conversati­ons.”

Mr MacCallum said he had been subject to the “odd snide remark” from police asking “how’d your long conversati­on go with so and so?”.

“They have the ability to do it (phone tap) without permission but just can’t use it as evidence. But it puts them in a position to threaten a client and find out informatio­n that can only have come from a privileged lawyerclie­nt conversati­on,” he said.

Mr Murakami said police or anti-corruption bodies could “easily” order a crime investigat­ion.

“As soon as that happens they can listen to phones and do all sorts. It is prudent for any defence lawyer to only have face to face conference­s because of widespread use of phone tapping,” he said.

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