Fast growing but backwards thinking
On the front page of the Gazette (Dec 18), Councillor Goss said, “At first people won't like the change, we saw that with Palmerston St and haven't heard anything on that since”.
Well Councillor Goss, hear this. Warragul's CBD is in complete shambles when it comes to so called improvement in traffic flow and parking. Around the central triangle, it is a nightmare trying to navigate one’s way around.
The new one-way Palmerston Street is a perfect example of a planning and engineering stuff up. To take two lanes of traffic and not just make it one way but to reduce it to one lane is unbelievable. And on top of that, it runs in the wrong direction.
To prove my point here, instead of trying to ease traffic congestion and flow you have done the exact opposite. As the cenotaph road goes anti-clockwise, anyone trying to find a park and wishing to drive around the block a number of times, now have to drive down to Cromie Corner roundabout and do a complete 360. They must come up Victoria St and try again or drive through Safeway carpark.
So now you have a situation at the three roundabouts in question that everyone wishing to proceed through and drive around in circles has to stay on two of them for a 75 per cent circuit and one a 100 per cent circuit. Whereas, if Palmerston St went anti-clockwise, every car going around would not only be entering the roundabout for only 25 per cent of its length, they would not have to go near Cromie Corner, hence less cars at intersections and better flow.
The number of times Palmerston St is at a standstill because someone is backing out and the car behind waits and the whole roundabout at “Frankie’s” is at gridlock.
Palmerston St has excessive wasted sidewalk space at the expense of losing a lane of traffic.
Last month I was involved in a near miss collision while trying to reverse out. I was watching for cars coming up behind me as well as for pedestrians.
Two-thirds of the way out there was a continuous honking of horns to alert me and a car on the opposite side, also trying to reverse out, from rear ending each other. We missed by centimetres.
Then just the next week l sat and watched two cars almost colliding in the same process.
The roundabouts should have been designed to allow for two lanes of traffic to reduce the number of gridlock situations.
Warragul is a fast growing town going backwards in its forward thinking, and it is no wonder people chose to shop out of town. Those businesses that have relocated to the old Hastings site on Burke St must be rubbing their palms with dollar signs, with stress-free parking, freeway access and a quaint little Coffee Pod to sit and relax and watch those frustrated motorists zooming past to try their luck in the jungle just 500 metres ahead.
Maybe the council should employ a farmer to sit in on all traffic flow issues within the township. At least they have the experience and expertise in designing traffic flow in and out of cow yards, and laneways to minimise throughput hold ups of their 100 to 1000 cow herds. Because some days sitting at any of the coffee shops in town sipping on a hot chocolate, it is like watching the Proverbial Browns cows going round and round.
And, a comment on the Christies Rd alteration. I attended the site in question to see for myself what all the fuss was about and now l see why those users of Christies Rd have complained, and rightly so.
All those who voted in favour of interrupting the traffic flow of that road in favour of a residential subdivision, hampering the movement of large vehicles using the said road, should resign from their position on council.
Returning now to the quote from Councillor Goss that we “haven't heard anything on that since”. Well, Councillor Goss you heard plenty of replies against the Christies Rd alteration. You even had another option from a past engineer which you chose to ignore, instead sticking with your original plans.
That is why the residents do not or may not respond to council’s decisions because you don't listen. How many of you have traffic flow and/or engineering qualifications? But, here you are telling Warragul's 15,000 residents what is best for them.
Bruce Pratt, Warragul South
Cured or endured?
Information for Baw Baw Shire councillor Danny Goss. Just because you haven’t heard anything on Palmerston Street since it was completed, does not mean people like it.
There is no point in banging your head against a brick wall. All you get is a headache.
At the very least it should have been designed so you go north in Smith Street, west in Palmerston Street and south in Victoria Street. Presumably the computer has worked out that the other direction is better, but I’m sure I can’t see it.
What can’t be cured must be endured, and we are enduring Palmerston Street. Presumably we will endure Smith Street too.
Kath Trewern, Warragul
Can people please refrain from jay walking across Smith Street.
How many extra crossings do you need? There is only six metres between the crossings, surely you can walk that far to use the crossings safely.
With school holidays upon us, please take the effort to follow road rules to keep our children safe by showing them correctly.
Lynden Dempsey, Shady Creek
AEC is correct
Sorry Greg Tuck (Gaz, Dec 24), the Australian Electoral Commission is correct.
You misunderstand how a democracy works. The majority of people under our electoral system in this electorate chose Russell Broadbent to be their representative in parliament. As a result, he became the representative for “all” people in the electorate regardless of their opinions.
Like all the rest of us, he represents you even if he does not represent your values.
Being in the minority in this electorate, you should accept what the majority has agreed are good policies or try to persuade Mr Broadbent to have them changed and hope that a future vote will be more in line with your opinions.
There will always be differences of opinion between constituents and their representatives, even amongst those who voted for them. The beauty of our democratic system is that we are free to express our opinions and, for the most part, the views of the majority prevail.
If your views are at odds with the majority and your representative, either they are faulty or they have not been adequately promoted.
Bruce Bowering, Drouin West
Oh dear, my jovial quip seems to have upset Neil O’Sullivan from Allambee Reserve (Gaz, 18/12).
He asks me to answer the question of his two sons at Yarragon Primary School, “what is going to happen to us in the future”? That’s not too difficult a question. Given that Mr O’Sullivan is not questioning the veracity or impartiality of so-called news on main stream media and seems happy for his offspring to accept without question everything teachers say, then the answer is his children will continue to be brainwashed by people with a biased viewpoint pursuing a particular agenda. Remember that 1970s Paul Simon song? “When I think back to all the crap I learned at high school; it’s a wonder I can think at all”. Well things have got a lot worse since then. Matthew Laverack, Warragul
Roger Marks is entitled to his views on climate change (“Not Going to Happen”, Gaz 24/12), but is overly optimistic in hoping to convince Gazette readers.
Roger’s long history of correspondence to The Gazette is punctuated with credibility failures, from assuring us that weapons of mass destruction would be found in Iraq to that the move towards legalised same-sex marriage would certainly fail.
To claim that proponents of the impending potentially disastrous consequences of climate change “have no evidence for anything they say”, whilst presenting no evidence himself, makes it clear why a reasonable discussion with Roger is an impossible task. Furthermore, to accuse those who disagree of being “a pseudo religion” and only “in it for the money” represents
A big bouquet of flowers to everyone who knows that Christmas isn’t about materialistic decorations in our towns.
Thank you to those who decorate our streets with friendly smiles, kind words, saying please and thank you, patience while driving, consideration of busy retail staff and offering a helping hand to the elderly who sometimes struggle with heavy shopping trolleys.
Make every day Christmas in our lovely towns.
Bricks to Baw Baw Shire. What a complete bottleneck the one-way traffic is in Palmerston St, Warragul. This has caused a bottleneck in Victoria and Smith streets as well. Ridiculous. the typically and consistently outrageous Mr Marks.
I, along with the vast majority of the general public, would prefer to heed the qualified views of the vast majority of the world's climate scientists than those of Roger Marks.
John Duck, Trafalgar
Best belly laugh
I must thank Cr Danny Goss for giving me the best belly laugh for 2018 with his commentary on the Palmerston Street works (Gaz, 18/12).
Apart from not being able to see any benefit for the cost of those works, the councillor must have his ear plugs in and blinkers on since its completion. Could someone please point out the benefit of this project?
An obvious result is how dangerous roundabouts at either end of Smith Street are due to the number of vehicles now doing U-turns to try and find parking spots or navigate the closure of through traffic.
The roundabouts either end of Palmerston Street are regularly gridlocked as drivers precariously navigate the narrow roadway that allows minimal vision to those reversing from parked spots; or wait for traffic to move due to reduced traffic flow.
And then, to consider going ahead with making part of Smith Street one way!! Is its council’s intent to drive people “out” of Warragul CBD!
Maybe before committing ratepayer funds to another project that will further reduce traffic flow, why do you not look to doing a trial for three to six months where no streetscape works are commenced until the traffic impact can be examined.
With the lack of town planning, my suggestion is that if you get to a roundabout on Smith Street and need to do a U-turn, you would be better of turning left or right and heading to the next town.
Helen Case, Drouin Serious bricks to Baw Baw Shire with numerous parking inspectors walking around Christmas Eve. Is the shire really trying to kill the small businesses? Again, I hear people say let’s leave, can't remember how long I've been here, don’t want a fine.
A big bouquet to Andy who has bought so much joy to residents and visitors to Peace Avenue, Warragul for many decades now.
It is a pleasure to see the look of sheer wonderment on the little ones faces when they see the illuminated Christmas display and Santa.