Re: “Province needs to show at least minimum sense,” column, Aug. 20
I enjoy columnist Chris Nelson, and most times agree with him. However, his article in Monday’s Herald, on what he believes are problems caused by the minimum wage increase, is one-sided.
How can anyone disagree with a minimum wage of $15 an hour? How can anyone expect a person to live on $15 an hour or less?
It’s unreasonable and unjust. I believe anyone who can afford to dine out and spend $25 or $30 or more for a meal could and would be willing to pay an extra dollar or two for their meal. That would not be a reason to stay home.
Wayne F. Hall, Calgary
Frank S. Ensible -
I know a young lady who comes home from SPAIN!!! and waitresses for 2-3 weeks at Stampede, because it is that lucrative!
$15 per hour is a base salary and if you are willing to work, and are a “good” waitress who is attentive, congenial and has a nice personality you will be able to make pretty good money. No you won’t get rich overnight.
If you are more interested in talking about how “wasted” you got the night before instead of doing your job, and you have a sense of entitlement to that tip at the end of your giving service, then you will likely struggle on $15 per hour!
It likely means the difference between success at your chosen career, and failure. Will you live in a $million mansion and drive a Ferrari, probably not. If you want those things then you are likely going to have to begin on a different path of education, hard work, debt, and hard work, and dedication to your chosen path. Or have rich parents that will pay, and have already paid, for your way in life.
I didn’t have a university education, in fact I didn’t have a high school diploma! But I worked my a** into the ground for many years, and then studied EVERY night to attain success in my chosen field during the next 6 years. Then I started a company and became a successful entrepreneur, continuously working 12 to 16 hours a day, until I didn’t need to any longer, hiring people and I paid them well. All had the same opportunity with my company, and some succeeded and some didn’t. The ones that did succeed had drive and the ones who didn’t lacked drive but had a sense of entitlement. The unsuccessful ones also thought great success should happen overnight.
Nothing worthwhile come for free, and if you are so fortunate to be given a place in life by your parents, but don’t have the other traits to go along with the gift, then you will still fail likely. Success is not a given!
The minimum wage should be as fluent as the overall economy.
Craic O'Dawn -
Ah Wayne, Wayne, written like a true Gil McGowan.type, who knows what is good for you. And perhaps a little extra to pay for the olympic;s party.
Wifey and I used to frequent Red Lobster every month. Now not so often. Buy crab legs or lobster at super store,throw in a baked tater, bake some of those cheesie biscuits mix bought at Costco, mix up some garlic butter, small salad,turn down the lights. Same taste,no tipping,full belly and a sense of accomplishment. Skill level required for this recipe...med. The only thing we can buy cheaper than doing it ourselves,and made fresh, is a pizza. Pick it up,no tipping. I hate tipping,I also hate government employees getting a friggen bonus for doing their job they were hired to do right in the first place.
Minimum wage is not meant to be a living wage. The value of a living wage varies depending on where you live. A minimum wage earner working in a bar can easily earn $200-300 in tips....which greatly increases their take home pay. This is why there was a lower minimum wage for servers. The minimum wage earner at Tim Hortons likely not so lucky. But if you want to talk about inequities then start looking at OAS which varies between $20 to $30 a day....that is neither minimum wage nor a living wage. Seniors are getting shafted!
It all comes down to costs for the competitive business and the consumer for most and if the price of food goes up there is a tipping point not to buy or reduce buying whether its a quarter more or 20 dollars more or a few dollars more. Canadians are gouged for the most part some with no choices due to lack of competition and necessary needs but most hate to be be gouged and with dining out or purchasing food you do have choices and competition.
Michael Sean Poland -
Minimum-wage jobs are seen to be temporary jobs, Wayne, in that people do them before upgrading their other skills and education. They're not meant to be permanent vocations, in other words.
Subatomic Power -
Spoken like a brainless and narrow scoped progressive. The economics of tipping has been destroyed by the socialists. Now, serving staff have no hope of making a good living, where before they made a good living. Well done, idiot NDP progressives.
Yes, many of the folks on minimum wage are teenagers/students living at home. But some are not. One way around this may be to pay the current minimum wage to those under the age of 21. Then raise to new level when they reach 21. Not a perfect solution, but at least the adults who are trying to support themselves on minimum wage will have a better job.
We still eat out but now about half as often as we use to do. So yeas we pay more but in the end we pay less as we don't eat out as much as we used to do. Also I now tip 10% not 15 like I always did previously. Once it goes to %15.00 i"ll drop the tip completely.
If you have job skills then you aren't working for minimum wage. If you don't have any job skills, then an employer is only hiring you to do things that require no job skills and those jobs are being replaced by technology.
We should abolish the whole concept of a minimum wage and let market forces decide what the correct wage is.
Additionally Wayne F. Hall, perhaps you are a former government worker and are living high on the hog enjoying a monstrously big, indexed pension. I do not have a pension. I live by burning through my savings and investments. That being the case, I do watch my expenses closely. As the cost of a delivered pizza or some Chinese food went through the roof because of increased expanses imposed on those businesses by government, I have curtailed my purchases from those businesses. Vicious circle, eh?
Wayne F. Hall, as others have pointed out here, entry level jobs (usually minimum wage jobs) are not positions that most people would aspire to have as lifelong careers. If they do, that is their choice. My own experience with minimum wage ($1.90/hr) as a summer student worker doing jobs the union guys refused to do earned me kicking around money (I was living in my parents' home) and provided motivation for me to stay in school, get a degree and get a much better career than general laborer.
People seem to forget that with earning more you are probably going into t a higher tax bracket depending on how many hours your work. Meaning your are worse off than before. The take home pay could actually be less than before. Also the employer has to match the CPP contribution and pay $1.4 for every dollar deducted to EI.
AverageGuy: I don't agree. The minute you jump into a higher tax bracket, it affects every dollar on your T4, right back to the first dollar. Well the first dollar past your personal exemption. If governments really wanted to help the poor, they would raise the exemption levels.
U.: You are highly uninformed.! NEVER, NEVER, NEVER will making more money make your pay cheque be less. Your entire earnings are not subject to the higher taxes, just the amount that exceeds the limits of the lower brackets. Bob the Billionaire pays the same taxes on the first $46000 as Billy the Burger Flipper.
15% on the first $46,605 of taxable income, + 20.5% on the next $46,603 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 46,605 up to $93,208), + 26% on the next $51,281 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $93,208 up to $144,489), + 29% on the next $61,353 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 144,489 up to $205,842), + 33% of taxable income over $205,842.
When I was younger, starting working part-time at 14, .85 cents an hour was the rate until I reached 16. then it went up to a whopping $1.25 per hour. It wasn't a living wage at that time, but I was happy to be making extra money. I was living with my parents. I don't believe minimum wage was ever meant to be a living wage. It was always young people starting out, people such as seniors earning extra money, and Restaraunt staff who had their minimum wage subsidised by tips. We somehow survived all these past years without having to raise minimum wage 40%.
Well said . . . 👍
Wayne is an example of the problem. The delusion that "minimum wage" should reflect a "living wage". And it appears he is not much of a tipper … spending "an extra dollar or two" on a $25-30 meal sounds like he doesn't even know the standard percentage to tip. Ill informed … and cheap.
Jeffrey Anderson -
Well, its good to know that Wayne has the money to throw around. Most minimum wage positions are entry level for a teenager living at home and to add work experience on their resume or a retired person who wants to stay active and to supplement their pension. Technology and automation will make these positions obsolete in few years. There will be ordering tablets at tables, articulated robots to serve you and the only human you'll see is a host to make sure you've paid for your meal.