Re: “Provinces can lead on climate research,” Opinion, Dec. 12
Repeating climate myths doesn’t make them come true. F. Larry Martin suggests without scientific evidence that our forests make Canada a net carbon sink. So no need to reduce our extravagant energy use, energy waste, and emissions.
According to Martin, “Ottawa has not scientifically established that Canada is a net contributor to adverse climate change.”
As Natural Resources Canada’s graphs clearly show, Canada’s managed forests were net carbon sinks until 2001. Since then, they have been net sources adding to our man-made totals, not subtracting. In years when Canada’s forests were carbon sinks, the amount of carbon they absorbed was nowhere near our man-made emissions. This trend will only get worse with warming.
In 2007, the Harper government decided to leave Canada’s forests out of its Kyoto equation, because they would be a liability, not an asset.
Martin’s argument is void. Forests are a natural carbon sink in balance with natural carbon sources. Burning fossil fuels adds long-sequestered carbon to the carbon cycle. Natural sinks absorb only a fraction of man-made emissions. As forests burn and insect infestations spread, forest sinks lose capacity. Can islanders and coastal dwellers claim the ocean as a carbon offset, too?
I think you have captured Jack’s essence exactly. Very well done.
I did say earlier that salt air burns out the brain, and I do believe Jack is a sailor.
Jack has come to now understand that climate change is driven by natural causes and that the science is not settled on human contributions to same. He also believes that the next ice age was already starting and that the current inter glacial period had ended when the industrial revolution stopped the inevitable cooling in its tracks. That's really all we need to know about Jack's postings most or all of which are written by people with a political agenda. On the forest issue he claims Canada's forests will contribute 10 times more CO2 to the atmosphere than they will absorb over the next few decades because he read this somewhere in Canadian government literature on the subject. Most of us know better than to believe this stuff as it is politically biased. However if Jack happened to be right on the fact we humans have managed to stop the next ice age, we Canadians should celebrate. 4000 feet of ice over our heads once again is truly an apocalypse for Canada. Warmer is much better. Count on it! But don't count on the next ice age not being around the corner. There were ice ages when CO2 was many times higher than today. Check it out. Much more work is needed on the science and much less on the politics.
That is simply not true Jack. Look up “our greening planet” on any search engine you wish. The exception might be in Brizil as the chop Dow rain forest, crop it for four or five years till all the nutrients leach away and they move on. I remember scientists talking about these rain forests as being the cooling radiator of the equatorial region and screaming at the top of their lungs if these frees are all cut down the earth would cook. Once the nutrients are gone they can’t even get trees to grow there now, are these the trees your talking about?
Looks like the socialists need to start taxing the forests until they decide to go back to being absorbers rather than emitters. Maybe send in tome negotiators to convince them too. My gosh! Socialist green fanatics: the densest substance on the planet!
Hundreds more where these came from. I still am looking through some of those 85 peer reviewed papers I put up yesterday which you put down by simply saying not a good site. I submit those peer reviewed articles are as credible as the latest IPCC's adopted peer reviewed report from which they claimed the earth was clearly coming to an end way sooner than they had previously thought. Then some guy with a high school diploma found a grave error in the math, the so called scientists grudgingly agreed they fudged the numbers, no explanation as to how this got by peer review unless it's because their peer review is a big rubber stamp they keep in a drawer. Still no retraction, in spite of declaring the earth was in the worse condition ever based on fudged data, nothing, no retraction, no admission the sky is not falling but rather the only way they can make it appear to fall is by lying. Jack, you work for a band of charlatans and lairs.
Jack, your a smart guy, I can tell because I’m a pretty smart guy myself. You swallowed a whopper of you do in fact believe what you just wrote, hottest year ever, not!!!!!! The mid evil warm period when Vickings had farm animals on Green Land snd they grew grapes in Scotland, that was the warmest period in recorded history. Geologists prove over and over there were other times but in recorded history two years ago doesn’t cut it. It wasn’t even as warm as it was in 1933. No farm animals grazing in Green Land or grapes being grown in Scotland. You really need to apply some common sense of your own to the BS your folks keep feeding you. These are the very reasons the hockey stick graphs are BS. They had to adjust those semi ancient temperature records to make the hockey stick work. Raw data and other proofs will tell you who’s lying snd who’s telling the truth.
The math error was corrected but the massive catastrophe the paper predicted based on the fraudulent data was never withdrawn.
As far as any attempt to stymie scientists telling the truth no matter how successful anyone is it’s going to be really hard to sell “hottest year ever” when people are up to their necks in snow and ice and thousands starve and freeze to death.
There sure seems to be a lot of quacks around with PHD’s, are you one of those Jack. Do they pass those out with every drivers licence? I doubt you’d ever say any of these things to these folks in public. You’d be hit with law suits from every one of these people. You really should be more careful about who you trash.
Look at a snapshot to determine what the full length movie is about is silly. Look at the bigger picture and you to will see the truth.
Go to Google and type in Global Cooling 2019 and enjoy hours of reading written by scientists who have realized if they don't speak up who will.
There you go again Jack. During my life I’ve received some of the best advice from the sidewalk superintendents we all encounter along the way. As my mom told me, you have two ears and one mouth, there is a strong message there. Perhaps Jack you should take my mom’s advice as I have done over the years.
I'm surprised jack persists in trying to pin "climate change" on CO2, when all the recent data shows global temp and CO2 levels have NO co-relation, much less a causal effect, unless it's temp causing CO2 rise. But that's his horse, and despite all the odor coming from his stats and the govt supported "studies" , he's entitled to rant on. It's a dated hypothesis, long since proven false, but he'll continue on. It's his religion. Just don't listen too closely; he is selling lies, the biggest one - "I'm from the govt and I'm here to help".
So the solution is to eliminate all forests then. Maybe we should stop worrying about all this fantasy BS and start putting people back to work.
Jack, I note that all the internet sites you refer to are "gc.ca" sites. These are Government of Canada LIBERAL controlled sites. What the hell do you expect to here from those assholes !!!!!
Carbon Dioxide soda pop sales tax.. Minister McKenna must commence taxing soda pop to help reduce carbon dioxide emissions. The carbon dioxide in soda pop means human emissions are increasing atmospheric emissions merely by breathing. The children and millennials won't like this, but they must understand that as soda pop consumers and drinkers they are polluting the world with carbon. The younger generation must know they are drinking the very CO2 that environmentalists call poison for the worlds climate. Active people breathe out 8 times more CO2 than they consume! (Watson-FP Page 13- Dec11/2018)
Jack Dale: A direct result of higher levels of CO2.
Jack Dale: Thank goodness CO2 levels are on the rise as if they were not our current farm land would be unable to support our rapidly increase in population. 81 million net more folks every year than the year previous. Higher levels of CO2 are allowing the earth to green. Look it up for yourself.
Geoffrey "Pud" Pounder is a well known enemy of Canada. I would love an opportunity to debate a clown like him. There is only one number Canada should keep in mind. That is 1.6. 1.6 relates to the percentage of CO2 that DF Canada contributes globally. 1.6%. For clowns like Hanson that is the total amount of GHG's in the world times 0.016. Do the math fools. Whatever we do here simply doesn't matter. On this issue too, Canada is irrelevant.
Canada's "managed forests" are not the same as "Canada's forests". They are rather "managed" so as to be able to manipulate statistics to help make the apocalypse global warming politics also more manageable. Canada's forests historically have been a large CO2 net sink. This is a fact which will remain so for the next 100 years as it has for the last. Bet on it! Cherry picking a few years when there were inordinate forest fires or pestilence is not a way to calculate the real contribution to atmospheric radiative gases. This is all about the left wing politics of global warming. So sad that real science is ignored and the political science of cooking graphs and numbers is rather what the public is being flooded with. Good that more people than not are figuring this out.
Jack you are going by the federal liberals forestry report, you can't trust all of these reports just because they are published, when Trudeau took over they back changed the calculations done by the forestry department to achieve their goal for people like you. Go and compare the reports for before Trudeau took over and see the major changes. If Trudeau didn't change this data then how could he sell his carbon tax?
Geoff says " extravagant energy use ", and I underline " extravagant ". So Geoff, I heat my house, I cook my food, I drive my car a little, I do take the odd trip to Banff, and an asshole like you calls me " extravagant ". How dare you !!
I think Jack Dale has an alias … aka Geoffrey Pounder.