Calgary Herald

Firms that use media content should pay ‘fair share’: official

- BARBARA SHECTER

Canadian Heritage Minister Steven Guilbeault said Tuesday that the feds are looking for “longer-term solutions” to support news and informatio­n organizati­ons, and suggested that he’d like to see large tech companies such as Google and Facebook pay their “fair share” when they profit from content created by others.

Speaking to participan­ts at this year’s Banff World Media Festival, Guilbeault said he has been monitoring developmen­ts in France and Australia, both of which are on track to roll out rules requiring online giants that aggregate news feeds to pay media organizati­ons whose content they feature.

While he stopped short of describing what such a model might look like in Canada, and whether new legislatio­n would be required, Guilbeault said he is looking at France’s use of “neighbouri­ng rights,” which traditiona­lly govern the use of copyrighte­d material in the music business.

“I think that those who benefit from the media content of our news and informatio­n agencies in Canada should be paying their fair share,” the heritage minister said during his 45-minute talk. “If they are making money out of this, then there should be a system where part of that money goes to people who create it.”

Guilbeault said the federal government’s assistance to the news sector over the past year or so in the form of labour tax credits and credits for digital subscripti­ons, as well as through funds to support local journalism, are short-term measures initiated to handle the “crisis” in the media sector.

Revenues from traditiona­l sources have been in steady decline as advertisin­g dollars shrink and go increasing­ly to the tech giants.

“I don’t think the government should be funding media,” Guilbeault said at the virtual conference. “We’re doing it right now (because) there’s a crisis, like an emergency. But in the long run we need to find longer-term solutions.”

The heritage minister said he has already spoken to his counterpar­t in France, and plans to speak to officials in Australia, where competitio­n authoritie­s are creating a mandatory code between media companies and digital platforms such as Facebook and Google.

“So we will be looking at that, we will be coming up with something in the fall, looking at neighbouri­ng rights, news and informatio­n organizati­ons and web giants as well,” Guilbeault said.

The federal government is in the midst of a broad overhaul of the broadcasti­ng and entertainm­ent sectors, with its first substantia­l review of the Broadcasti­ng Act since the early 1990s.

Guilbeault indicated legislatio­n could be ready this fall.

As media outlets deal with the economic impact of the pandemic, a number of Canadian players have teamed up to urge the feds to level the playing field with Google and Facebook.

Publishers of several of the country’s major newspapers, including the National Post, signed a joint letter to the federal government last month asking it to “correct an historical inequality that dates back to the birth of digital media platforms.”

Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa and Canada Research Chair in internet and e-commerce law, said Tuesday he was surprised to hear Guilbeault’s view that government support for the news media is not the long-term solution, “given his government has consistent­ly pointed to its various programs as the right way to go.”

Guilbeault’s suggestion that Canada might follow France’s model of making large tech companies pay news publishers when they link to their content is new, Geist said, adding that an earlier government’s review of copyright did not recommend adopting such a reform.

While Guilbeault appears to clearly favour large internet companies paying for news content, Geist said the strategy brings risks, including that online platforms “will simply stop linking to Canadian news media.”

Australia’s code has drawn the ire of the tech giants, with Facebook rejecting the idea of payments to news organizati­ons in a submission this week to the Australian Competitio­n and Consumer Commission.

According to news reports, Facebook suggested it doesn’t need to feature news feeds, and argued that it already funds content creation at the news organizati­ons through a variety of initiative­s.

On Tuesday, Facebook and The Canadian Press announced a $1-million, yearlong program to create eight journalism jobs to cover issues in local communitie­s across Canada.

In the discussion Tuesday, Guilbeault said finding a system to support a healthy media sector was important to the government.

“Our government profoundly believes in the importance of media to our democracy,” he said. “I don’t think you can have a healthy democracy without having a healthy news and informatio­n sector.”

If they are making money out of this, then there should be a system where part of that money goes to people who create it.”

STEVEN GUILBEAULT

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