Security briefings for political parties not meant to reveal specific intelligence, inquiry hears
Members of a government task force monitoring for‐ eign interference in the 2021 federal election say their briefings to political parties were never sup‐ posed to reveal specific or actionable intelligence, the Foreign Interference Com‐ mission inquiry heard Friday.
Lyall King represents the Communications Security Es‐ tablishment (CSE), Canada's cybersecurity agency, on the Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections (SITE) Task Force. He spoke days af‐ ter political party officials de‐ scribed the SITE briefings they received during the 2021 election as generic and unhelpful.
"The desired outcome was to really educate the baseline, to provide a little bit more information than what might be found in open sources," King said Friday. "What we shared was at the secret level, so not classified.
"It was really intended to inform political parties … about the tactics and the techniques used by foreign adversaries in the course of engaging in foreign interfer‐ ence activities."
King said the briefings for party representatives were meant to open a communica‐ tion pathway so that parties detecting evidence of foreign interference could flag it to security officials.
The SITE Task Force is made up of representatives of CSIS, the RCMP, CSE and Global Affairs Canada. Its job is to help protect Canadian federal elections by reviewing and collecting intelligence and providing assessments to government officials. Dur‐ ing the 2021 election, it regu‐ larly briefed party officials on possible foreign interference threats.
Earlier this week, three of those party officials - Walied
Soliman, Conservative cam‐ paign co-chair for the 2021 election; Azam Ishmael, who led the Liberals' 2021 cam‐ paign; and NDP national di‐ rector Anne McGrath - told the commission the 2021 election briefings they re‐ ceived were not helpful.
'This was a new thing for us'
"My overall sense was that I really didn't learn anything in the briefings that I didn't reg‐ ularly read in the New York Times or the Globe and Mail or the Toronto Star," Soliman said Tuesday.
"Listening to briefings on things that I think … were probably not actionable and … entirely known to us was not a good use of time and probably not a good use of resources."
McGrath said she was struck by how many high-lev‐ el security officials attended her briefing only to deliver generic information.
"Questions were asked," she said. "But the answers … didn't give you any informa‐ tion that would be helpful or any resources that would be helpful to deal with ques‐ tions. Such as, if there was foreign interference in this aspect of the election cam‐ paign, how would we know it? And what would we do about it?"
King told the commission it was "never intended" that SITE would provide parties with specific intelligence in‐ formation.
"I can understand certain‐ ly to an extent where some of that sentiment comes from," King said. "This was a new thing for us, to be quite frank, for SITE to be briefing political parties.
"Some of our intelligence does come from highly classi‐ fied sources. To be able to downgrade it, to be able to share, we naturally have to obfuscate certain informa‐ tion, remove certain specifici‐ ties, so it can become gener‐ alized in that sense."
Federal inquiry contin‐ ues
The Foreign Interference Commission inquiry, led by Quebec judge Marie-Josee Hogue, expects to hear testi‐ mony from more than 40 people, including community members, political party rep‐ resentatives and federal elec‐ tion officials.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, members of his cabinet and various senior government officials are
slated to appear at the hear‐ ings, which are set to con‐ clude April 10.
An initial report of find‐ ings from the commission is due May 3.
The inquiry will then shift to broader policy issues, looking at the government's ability to detect, deter and counter foreign interference. A final report is expected by the end of the year.
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