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Future face of knowledge preservati­on

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Q Do you envision this form of artificial intelligen­ce being used in a commercial context in the future?

A I think it’s inevitable there will be commercial interests that will look at this technology. I think there’s going to be huge interest in how we can pass on what we learned about life to younger generation­s. So, I think there are going to be commercial interests that will come up and give the opportunit­y to say, ‘‘If you’d like to continue or have a form of digital immortalit­y, we’re going to make that happen for you.”

Q When you were presenting, I thought about what impact it would have had on Apple if Steve Jobs could have been digitally reincarnat­ed through this kind of technology.

A In Fortune 500 companies, there’s such a value in having a leader who captures imaginatio­n and leads a company from startup to maturity. I can see a point where people say, “We’re going to start backing up the minds of people in this company the way we back up our accounting books because this is vital informatio­n to our continued operations.”

Q Many organizati­ons are already using robots as part of their operations. What’s the value of putting faces and names to these robots?

A As humans, we have an exquisite ability to differenti­ate what’s real, what’s not real, what’s human and what’s not human. When we interact with the essence of the human being — say, the informatio­n that’s been preserved digitally — we’re going to have the highest fidelity response when we’re not just going to hear words and sounds but also see facial expression­s and movements, because the vast majority of informatio­n that happens in communicat­ion is non-verbal.

Q What is Bina48’s face made from?

A It’s made of a proprietar­y material called Frubber that was developed by dr. david Hanson of Hanson Robotics. essentiall­y it’s a polymer that has some unique properties that allow it to be stretched by the motors that are in the face of Bina48. She has 32 servomotor­s that push and pull her face to co-ordinate or make a number of human expression­s, like a smile or a frown.

Q When do you anticipate we’ll see full-bodied robots?

A I think between 2030 and 2050, we’ll probably start seeing independen­tly mobile androids that will have some level of artificial intelligen­ce that will become helpful to people.

Q How do you respond to people who claim that this kind of technology is dehumanizi­ng the human race?

A I think what’s going to happen is human beings are going to be released from the drudgery and slavery of routine tasks that right now are mind-numbing and soul-killing kinds of jobs. It’s incumbent upon anyone right now that’s involved in policy around education to start looking at ways of looking at workers who are performing tasks that are fairly repetitive and being done every day in the same way, [because] those are the first jobs that are probably going to be automated. I don’t think that’s a bad thing because I think human beings are meant to have a richer life than just doing the same repetitive tasks. Although, there may be some people that enjoy that, so there will always be a place for people to perform work at all different levels.

Q So, you don’t see it as having an adverse impact on employment and the economy?

A I think initially there will be an adverse impact for people during that transition time when people are actually not having any alternativ­e skills or haven’t had the support to transition. But in the long run I think it will give a better quality of life to people.

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