National Post

Trump won’t slow Fiera expansion bid

- DAMON VAN DER LINDE

• The CEO of Fiera Capital says he’s not worried about investing in a United States with Donald Trump as president, even as the Montreal- based investment firm plans to more than double its assets under management to $200 billion in 2020 fuelled mostly by growth south of the border.

Trump’s extreme protection­ist rhetoric has included threats to modify or cancel trading relationsh­ip with foreign entities, and his detractors believe his proposed economic policies could cause anything from volatility to disaster on stock markets — not encouragin­g forecasts for a company looking to grow.

But in order for Fiera to succeed, Jean- Guy Desjardins says it’s inevitable that more than half of its business will be in the U. S. The Montreal- based company nearly doubled its exposure recently, to about 42 per cent, with the acquisitio­n of Ohio- based Apex Capital Management in February.

“I’m more interested in knowing who will be treasury secretary than who will be president,” Fiera’s chief executive said in an interview following the company’s annual shareholde­r meeting last Friday.

Desjardins says that if Trump, the presumptiv­e nominee of the Republican Party, does win the elections, he’ll put forward candidates for the Treasury of the Secretary, but the final selection will ultimately need approval from the U.S. Senate.

“He cannot come up with somebody who would be an inappropri­ate candidate. The system will block him,” Desjardins added. “He’ll have to come with another one until he comes up with a decent candidate. That’s where the economy’s managed, that’s where the economy’s run.”

In the coming years Fiera plans to grow four “pillars” in the U. S. — infrastruc­ture, real estate, a family of hedge funds and a credit business.

In the Canadian institutio­nal market, Desjardins s ays most i ndependent money managers survive on defined- benefit pension plans, but almost all employers will shift to defined-contributi­on plans over the next two decades.

“What’s left for an independen­t money manager in Canada? A little piece of the high- net- worth market, a small piece of the retail market and a large piece of a shrinking market,” he said.

Desjardins says it will be difficult for an independen­t Canadian money manager to survive over the next 20 years, with commercial banks already tying up the lion’s share of the retail and high-net-worth markets.

But he adds: “I’m not betting against them.”

Just five years ago, Fiera had $ 29 billion in assets under its management. This rose to $ 87 billion by early 2015 and reached the $100-billion mark early in the year. To reach the $ 200- billion target, Desjardins says Fiera has three and a half years to acquire about $ 20 billion in assets, though the firm has the capabiliti­es to meet this in 18 months.

He also says Fiera assumes it will grow organicall­y by five per cent a year, while right now it’s clearing more than nine per cent.

The firm is looking at building emerging market capabiliti­es, which at the moment it doesn’t have. Desjardins says Fiera has been “dating” a firm with this specializa­tion for the past 18 months, though for competitiv­e reasons he wouldn’t say where or who the company is.

“As long as we can marry and merge with a capable emerging market team wherever it is it doesn’t matter geographic­ally,” he said.

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CHRISTINNE MUSCHI FOR NATIONAL POST Fiera Capital head Jean- Guy Desjardins says it’s inevitable that more than half of its business will be in the U. S.

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