National Post

Canada warned of China’s ‘subtle, intense influence’

ACADEMIC WORRIED ABOUT ‘BULLYING’ TACTICS

- TOM BLACKWELL tblackwell@nationalpo­st.com Twitter.com/tomblackwe­llnp

Silent Invasion, Clive Hamilton’s ground-breaking book about China’s covert influence on Australian society, has been both applauded as an overdue exposé and criticized as an exaggerati­on of the problem. But when he finished the book, he received some unwanted validation of its central thesis: three Australian publishers declined to publish it, citing fear of retributio­n from Beijing or its allies.

Hamilton, a professor of public ethics at Canberra’s Charles Sturt university and former executive director of progressiv­e think-tank The Australia Institute, eventually found a willing publisher, and now is working on a sequel dealing with similar issues in North America. What he’s discovered so far makes him very concerned for Canada. He spoke with the National Post during a visit to Toronto.

Q Some experts suggest the problem of Chinese soft-power interferen­ce is much more pronounced in Australia and New Zealand than here. Do you agree?

A I think it’s more of a problem in Canada.

yes, Australia’s economic dependence is higher — in terms of trade — but when I look, as I have been doing, at the subtle but intense influence of China on Canadian institutio­ns — parliament­s, provincial government­s, local government­s, universiti­es, the intellectu­al community, the policy community — it makes me deadly worried.

I’ve met some very well-informed Canadians who aren’t sure Canada will be able to extricate itself from this situation.

Q Can you give some examples of what disturbs you so much here?

A When I was last in Canada — in Ottawa, a few months ago — I was pretty dismayed at the extent of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) influence in the federal Parliament. I should probably not say any more to stay on the right side of the libel laws.

I have also been dismayed by the brazenness of friends of the Chinese Communist Party and their activities. I’m thinking, for instance, of Chinese students on university campuses, and the really extraordin­ary attack on the Tibetan student who was elected … president of the (university of Toronto Scarboroug­h campus) student union.

My response is to ask what are the authoritie­s doing about this — the university authoritie­s and political authoritie­s? I think that’s the real measure of China’s influence.

I’m kind of dismayed at the apparent unwillingn­ess of authoritie­s to defend those essential democratic principles, including in this case the right of a minority person to participat­e in the democratic process on campus.

Q Were you surprised when publishers turned down your book?

A I was shocked. The implicatio­n was that a book written by an Australian scholar critical of the Chinese Communist Party could not find a publisher because of fear of retaliatio­n from a foreign power. That’s a shocking attack on free speech in a democratic country.

Australia has already decided not to let Huawei Technologi­es take part in building its 5G telecommun­ications network because of espionage fears. What should Canada do about this?

Canada should follow Australia and ban Huawei. It’s the only sensible thing to do, even though there will be economic costs. The security benefits in my judgment far outweigh the economic costs.

Q Is it possible to call out China for its alleged interferen­ce, and still pursue a positive trade and political relationsh­ip?

A It’s a classic case of standing up to bullying. We know that if you give way to bullying, then the bully will persist. If you stand up to bullying, you might get a bloody nose, but there will be a more respectful relationsh­ip thereafter.

Q Are there factors holding back critics of China’s influence campaign here and elsewhere?

A One thing I keep hearing from my Canadian friends is that ‘part of the problem in Canada is that we are so polite, we don’t want to mention it because we might offend people.’ And of course this is exploited.

It’s one thing to be polite, it’s another thing to be bullied by an authoritar­ian power.

The other powerful device used constantly to silence critics like me is the accusation of racism.

The day I decided to write my book, I decided to make it very clear throughout that I’m talking about the CCP, and not Chinese people and not Chinese Australian­s.

As I delved into this, what I became aware of was the fact that Chinese Australian­s live in fear. Fear of retributio­n (against relatives and businesses in China) if they criticize the Chinese Communist Party. I became offended at that.

There are a lot of Chinese Canadians who would like to have their say, but have to censor themselves if they want to avoid very severe consequenc­es. Those who do make a decision to speak up are very courageous people.

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

 ?? GREG BAKER / AFP / GETTY IMAGES FILES ?? Chinese police officers stand guard outside the Canadian embassy in Beijing late last year after China protested Canada’s “inhumane” treatment of an executive of telecom giant Huawei who is being held on a U.S. extraditio­n bid.
GREG BAKER / AFP / GETTY IMAGES FILES Chinese police officers stand guard outside the Canadian embassy in Beijing late last year after China protested Canada’s “inhumane” treatment of an executive of telecom giant Huawei who is being held on a U.S. extraditio­n bid.
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University of Toronto.
CHEMI LHAMO Chemi Lhamo was targeted for attack after being elected student union president at the University of Toronto.

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