National Post

Conservati­ves call for Speaker’s resignatio­n

ALBERTA MP SAYS RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED WHEN SHE WAS KICKED OUT AFTER COMPLYING WITH ORDER

- catherine levesque

Conservati­ves are calling for the Speaker of the House to resign after he ejected Conservati­ve Leader Pierre Poilievre and MP Rachael Thomas during a heated debate on Tuesday.

But Greg Fergus has no intention of going anywhere, his office told the National Post.

Thomas was the first Conservati­ve to be expelled during the raucous question period after she called Fergus’s handling of the House “disgracefu­l.” Poilievre soon followed her after he called Prime Minister Justin Trudeau a “wacko.”

The insult was hurled as Poilievre pressed Trudeau to agree to British Columbia’s request to amend a Health Canada provision decriminal­izing public possession of hard drugs like heroin and fentanyl.

Trudeau instead shot back that Poilievre did not deserve elected office, accusing him of courting far-right extremists.

Poilievre refused Fergus’s request to withdraw the remark and was ejected from the House. His entire caucus eventually left in protest.

On Wednesday Thomas argued her privileges as an MP and those of her constituen­ts were violated because she was prevented from participat­ing in debate in the House for the remainder of the day when she had in fact withdrawn her comments when asked by Fergus to do so. “Mr. Speaker, I stated that the Chair is acting in a disgracefu­l manner. I withdraw,” said Thomas, according to an unofficial transcript of the proceeding­s on Tuesday.

But the official transcript of the day’s debates, also known as the Hansard, removes the part where Thomas says “I withdraw.” It, however, shows that an unidentifi­ed MP shouted that she withdrew her comments after Fergus said that she disregarde­d his authority.

Thomas pointed out the “significan­t discrepanc­y” between the two transcript­s.

“These words, Mr. Speaker, are significan­t because they demonstrat­e that I complied with ... your request to withdraw,” she said.

“It demonstrat­es that my withdrawal was not conditiona­l, but rather it was proper and textbook. Therefore, it ought to have been accepted. Yet, I was kicked out of this place for the remainder of the day as if I hadn’t withdrawn those words,” she said.

Fergus encouraged Thomas to “please share all the informatio­n that she would like to have the speakershi­p to evaluate” and said that they would be analyzed with an “extreme importance.”

The video of the exchange in question shows that Thomas clearly said the first part — where she reiterates in her opinion that the Speaker acted in a “disgracefu­l manner” — into the microphone.

The second part where she says “I withdraw” is barely audible because it was not picked up by the microphone as Fergus had already started speaking. MPS’ microphone­s are usually cut when the Speaker is talking to avoid any interferen­ce for interprete­rs.

“I’m going to ask you to ...” said Fergus, before stopping for a few seconds while consulting the clerks. He then picked up a piece of paper that he read. “Ms. Harder (Thomas’s maiden’s name), I have to name you for disregardi­ng the authority of the Chair,” he said.

“Pursuant to authority granted to me by Standing Order 11, I order you to withdraw from the House and from any participat­ion by video conference for the remainder of this day’s sitting,” he added while applause and heavy heckling ensued.

Fergus then corrected the record to refer to her as Mrs. Thomas, which is her legal name now that she is married.

“The blues are unofficial and it is not unusual for changes to be made during the editing and revision process. Sometimes comments are left out when there is a lot of noise, and it is not clear what was said,” said the Speaker’s office spokespers­on Mathieu Gravel.

Speaking before their caucus meeting on Wednesday, several Conservati­ve MPS called on Fergus to resign as Speaker, with some of them saying he should have left his position long ago.

Scott Aitchison said he “never” had confidence in the Speaker because he was too “partisan” whereas Rick Perkins said that Fergus should have resigned after he filmed a video for the Ontario Liberal Party convention dressed in his official robe last year.

At the time, the move prompted calls for his resignatio­n from the Conservati­ves and the Bloc Québécois. Fergus has since apologized for his mistake.

Government House leader Steven Mackinnon said Fergus is there to stay as Speaker.

“We have a parliament­ary democracy,” Mackinnon told reporters on Wednesday. “All members elected the Speaker. Once the Speaker is elected, he becomes the institutio­n. So, Mr. Fergus is the Speaker and we respect all of his rulings.”

Minister of Labour Seamus O’regan said he has known Fergus for years and said he is a “gentleman” and a “fair man.”

Wednesday’s question period was much quieter than usual, with Poilievre sticking to questions on drug decriminal­ization policies and bail reform despite multiple attempts by the Liberals to question him about “extremist white nationalis­t organizati­ons.”

 ?? ADRIAN WYLD / THE CANADIAN PRESS ?? Conservati­ve Leader Pierre Poilievre responds to the Speaker’s request on Tuesday to withdraw the word “wacko” in reference to the prime minister, eventually leading to his expulsion on the heels of Alberta MP Rachael Thomas.
ADRIAN WYLD / THE CANADIAN PRESS Conservati­ve Leader Pierre Poilievre responds to the Speaker’s request on Tuesday to withdraw the word “wacko” in reference to the prime minister, eventually leading to his expulsion on the heels of Alberta MP Rachael Thomas.
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Greg Fergus
 ?? JUSTIN TANG / THE CANADIAN PRESS ?? The office of the Speaker of the House Greg Fergus says he has no intention of going anywhere after facing calls from Conservati­ves to resign for ejecting Conservati­ve Leader Pierre Poilievre and MP Rachael Thomas during a heated debate on Tuesday.
JUSTIN TANG / THE CANADIAN PRESS The office of the Speaker of the House Greg Fergus says he has no intention of going anywhere after facing calls from Conservati­ves to resign for ejecting Conservati­ve Leader Pierre Poilievre and MP Rachael Thomas during a heated debate on Tuesday.

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