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U.S. officials say Pentagon committed to understand­ing UFOs

Public congressio­nal hearing

- JOEY ROULETTE AND STEVE GORMAN

• Two top U.S. defence intelligen­ce officials said on Tuesday the Pentagon is committed to determinin­g the origins of what the government calls “unidentifi­ed aerial phenomena” in the first public congressio­nal hearing in more than 50 years concerning phenomena commonly known as UFOs.

The two officials, Ronald Moultrie and Scott Bray, appeared before a U.S. House of Representa­tives intelligen­ce subcommitt­ee 11 months after a report documentin­g more than 140 cases of unidentifi­ed aerial phenomena, or UAPs, that U.S. military pilots have reported observing since 2004.

Bray, deputy director of naval intelligen­ce, acknowledg­ed that there have been some sightings that U.S. officials “can't explain.”

Some of those involved instances in which there was too little data to create a reasonable explanatio­n, Bray said.

But Bray added: “There are a small handful of cases in which we have more data that our analysis simply hasn't been able to fully pull together a picture of what happened.”

These, Bray said, have involved unexpected “flight characteri­stics” or “signature management.”

“When it comes to material that we have, we have no material, we have detected no emanations within the UAB task force that would suggest it is anything non-terrestria­l in origin,” Bray added.

The term UFO, for unidentifi­ed flying object, has long been widely associated with the notion of extraterre­strial spacecraft.

“We know that our service members have encountere­d unidentifi­ed aerial phenomena, and because UAP pose potential flight safety and general security risks, we are committed to a focused effort to determine their origins,” Moultrie, who oversees a newly formed Pentagon-based UAP investigat­ion team as U.S. defence undersecre­tary for intelligen­ce and security, told the hearing.

Bray presented the panel with two UAP video clips.

One showed flashing triangle-shaped objects in the night sky later determined to be visual artifacts of light passing through night-vision goggles.

The other showed a shiny, spherical object zipping past the cockpit window of a military aircraft.

“I do not have an explanatio­n for what this specific object is,” Bray said of the second object.

Moultrie and Bray also said the Pentagon was determined to remove the stigma long associated with sightings of unexplaine­d flying objects by encouragin­g pilots to come forward when they observe such phenomena.

The notion of alien spacecraft received no mention in last June's UAP presentati­on. The focus, instead, was on possible implicatio­ns for U.S. national security and aviation safety, as it was in Tuesday's hearing. The report did, however, include some UAPs previously revealed in Pentagon-released video footage of enigmatic airborne objects exhibiting speed and maneuverab­ility exceeding known aviation technology and lacking any visible means of propulsion or flight-control surfaces.

That report was a ninepage “preliminar­y assessment” compiled by the Office of the Director of National Intelligen­ce and a Navy-led task force the Pentagon formed in 2020.

Subcommitt­ee chairman Andre Carson said it was important for the Pentagon to take the issue of UAPs seriously.

“UAPs are unexplaine­d, it's true. But they are real,” Carson said, raising concerns that Pentagon officials have in the past focused on cases that are relatively easy to explain while “avoiding the ones that cannot be explained.”

Carson asked Moultrie, “Can we get some kinds of assurances that your analysts will follow the facts where they lead and assess all hypotheses?”

“Absolutely,” Moultrie responded. “So, we're open to all hypotheses. We're open to any conclusion­s that we may encounter.

“We want to know what's out there as much as you want to know what's out there,” Moultrie said, acknowledg­ing that he grew up as a science fiction enthusiast.

Moultrie and Bray were scheduled to testify behind closed doors following the public hearing.

The Navy task force behind last year's report was replaced in November by a

UAP POSE ... FLIGHT SAFETY AND GENERAL SECURITY RISKS.

Pentagon agency named the Airborne Object Identifica­tion and Management Synchroniz­ation Group.

Last year's report said the UAP sightings probably lack a single explanatio­n.

Further data and analysis were needed to determine whether they represent some exotic aerial system developed by a secret U.S. government or commercial entity, or by a foreign power such as China or Russia, according to the report.

Defence and intelligen­ce analysts have likewise yet to rule out an extraterre­strial origin for any UAP case, senior U.S. officials told reporters ahead of the report's release last year, though the paper itself avoided any explicit reference to such possibilit­ies.

The report and Tuesday's hearing marked a turning point for the U.S. government after decades spent deflecting, debunking and discrediti­ng observatio­ns of unidentifi­ed flying objects and “flying saucers” dating back to the 1940s.

There had been no open congressio­nal hearing on the subject since the U.S. Air Force terminated an inconclusi­ve UFO program code-named Project Blue Book in 1969.

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