Ottawa Citizen

Accused told ex- girlfriend he hit, tied up man he’s charged with killing, witness testifies


Catching up with an ex- girlfriend over beers, accused killer Sebastien Roy confided to her about the night he said he hit and tied up an AIDS- infected man who tried to force him to perform oral sex.

Julie Morier was called as the Crown’s last witness yesterday in the first- degree murder trial. Christophe­r Raynsford’s beaten and bound body was found, decomposin­g, on the floor of his Lisgar Street apartment on Dec. 4, 2002. Mr. Roy, 27, is charged with the crime.

Ms. Morier told assistant Crown attorney Julianne Parfett she dated Mr. Roy while attending school in Beloil, Que., in the spring of 2002. After a short- lived romance, she said the two split. With no contact for months, she said Mr. Roy paged her toward the end of November that year to go for drinks a few times. At a bar, he told her he was having problems finding a place to live, and that he met a man in Ottawa and “ things did not go well.”

Ms. Morier said Mr. Roy told her he met a man in a bar and the two of them went back to his apartment where they ate pizza and drank wine. She said Mr. Roy told her the man “ drank a lot of alcohol” and “ tried to force him” to perform oral sex. When Mr. Roy declined, he said Mr. Raynsford grabbed his shoulders, prompting Mr. Roy to hit him.

“ He told me he hit him several times with his fists and feet, and the guy screamed,” she said. “ Sebastien wanted to avoid the police getting involved in this, so he looked for a way to leave. He tied up ( Mr. Raynsford), but he was screaming and making a lot of noise and ( Mr. Roy) looked for a way to knock him out. He used a coffeemake­r that was in the kitchen. He hit the guy with it and he injured his hands.”

Police investigat­ors testified a shattered coffee pot was discovered on Mr. Raynsford’s floor, near his body.

Ms. Morier testified Mr. Roy said he hit the bound man again before leaving, and “ left a porn magazine” behind, telling him “ people have to understand you cannot force someone to do something they don’t want to do.”

Before he walked out the door, Ms. Morier said, Mr. Roy noticed Mr. Raynsford was starting to free himself from the “ ties that were linking his hands,” and he hit him again.

Regarding the cuts on his hands, she said Mr. Roy was worried he would contract AIDS.

“ He talked about the fact he had been cut and maybe his blood would have been mixed up with the other guy’s blood,” said Ms. Morier, a softspoken, petite mother.

Ms. Morier said Mr. Roy told her he returned to Quebec because he felt he would not be pursued there for “ assault” and was wondering if the incident had been published in the newspapers.

“ In the time you knew Sebastien Roy, he was never physically violent to you, was he?” asked Mr. Roy’s defence lawyer, Gary Barnes. “ No,” said Ms. Morier. “ When Sebastien tells you about this guy that takes him home, he tells you the reasons he goes with him is he ( Mr. Raynsford) says ‘ I’ve been there, I’ve been in the streets myself.’ And at that point he tells you he didn’t have a place to live and took a chance and went with the guy,” he said. The witness agreed.

“ And does Sebastien tell you when he ( Mr. Raynsford) grabs him by the shoulders, he has his pants down? “ I don’t remember,” she replied. Another man, Jean- Marie Lebrun, who had once lived with Mr. Roy, gave the jury a similar outline of the events at Mr. Raynsford’s apartment, based on what Mr. Roy told him. In his version, however, Mr. Roy hit Mr. Raynsford with a frying pan. A dented fry- ing pan with blood residue was also found at the scene.

Other crown witnesses confirmed Mr. Raynsford met Mr. Roy for the first time at the Centretown Pub on Nov. 21, 2002. Mr. Raynsford’s Ottawa friends testified Mr. Roy, who shared drinks with Mr. Raynsford that evening, said he was without a place to stay and they were nervous about their friend leaving with the muscular Mr. Roy, who removed his shirt at the bar to change into a tank top before the two left together.

Mr. Raynsford’s mother, Anne, has also testified that her son, having lived with AIDS for four years before his death, was too frail to take on a full- time job and accepted part- time work bussing at Le Café at the National Arts Centre.

In January 2003, Ottawa police major crime investigat­ors tracked Mr. Roy down at a shelter for homeless men in Quebec City and arrested him.

The defence will call its first witness today.

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