Ottawa Citizen

Journalist: Snowden keeping NSA ‘blueprints’ under wraps

‘No remorse’ despite plight

- JENNY BARCHFIELD

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil Edward Snowden has highly sensitive documents on how the National Security Agency is structured and operates that could harm the U.S. government, but has insisted that they not be made public, a journalist close to the NSA leaker said.

Glenn Greenwald, a columnist with the Guardian newspaper who first reported on the intelligen­ce leaks, said that disclosure of the informatio­n in the documents “would allow somebody who read them to know exactly how the NSA does what it does, which would in turn allow them to evade that surveillan­ce or replicate it.”

He said the “literally thousands of documents” taken by Snowden constitute “basically the instructio­n manual for how the NSA is built.”

“In order to take documents with him that proved that what he was saying was true he had to take ones that included very sensitive, detailed blueprints of how the NSA does what they do,” the journalist said Sunday in a Rio de Janeiro hotel room. He told The Associated Press the interview was taking place about four hours after his last interactio­n with Snowden.

Greenwald said he believes the disclosure of the informatio­n in the documents would not prove harmful to Americans or their national security, but that Snowden has insisted they not be made public.

“I think it would be harmful to the U.S. government, as they perceive their own interests, if the details of those programs were revealed,” he said.

He has previously said the documents have been encrypted to help ensure their safekeepin­g.

Snowden emerged from weeks of hiding in a Moscow airport Friday, and said he was willing to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin’s condition that he stop leaking U.S. secrets if it means Russia would give him asylum until he can move on to Latin America.

Greenwald said he deliberate­ly avoids talking to Snowden about issues related to where the former analyst might seek asylum in order to avoid possible legal problems for himself.

Snowden is believed to be stuck in the transit area of Moscow’s main internatio­nal airport, where he arrived from Hong Kong on June 23. He’s had offers of asylum from Venezuela, Nicaragua and Bolivia, but because his U.S. passport has been revoked, the logistics of reaching whichever country he chooses are complicate­d.

Still, Greenwald said that Snowden remains “calm and tranquil,” despite his predicamen­t.

“I haven’t sensed an iota of remorse or regret or anxiety over the situation that he’s in,” said Greenwald, who has lived in Brazil for the past eight years.

Asked about a so-called dead man’s pact, which Greenwald has said would allow several people to access Snowden’s trove of documents were anything to happen to him, Greenwald replied that “media descriptio­ns of it have been overly simplistic.

“It’s not just a matter of, if he dies, things get released, it’s more nuanced than that,” he said. “It’s really just a way to protect himself against extremely rogue behaviour on the part of the United States, by which I mean violent actions toward him, designed to end his life, and it’s just a way to ensure that nobody feels incentiviz­ed to do that.”

He declined to provide any more details about the pact or how it would work.

It was not immediatel­y clear whether Russia would take Snowden up on his latest request for asylum.

 ?? THE ASSOCIATED PRESS ?? Edward Snowden attends a news conference in Moscow’s airport with Sarah Harrison of WikiLeaks, left, on Friday.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Edward Snowden attends a news conference in Moscow’s airport with Sarah Harrison of WikiLeaks, left, on Friday.

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