Ottawa Citizen

A MAJOR ADVOCATE FOR MENTAL HEALTH

On Friday night TSN’s Michael Landsberg — who has become a passionate advocate for mental health issues — will join former Ottawa Senators captain Daniel Alfredsson to receive an Inspiratio­n Award at The Royal’s annual Inspiratio­n Gala, writes Blair Cr

- This interview has been edited for length and clarity. bcrawford@ottawaciti­zen.com Twitter.com/getBAC

Q Can you describe your jour ney with mental health issues?

A Depression doesn’t hit you like a car hits you. No one gets hit by a car and thinks, ‘I wonder what just happened?’ Depression is kind of like a change in temperatur­e of the bath. You’re in it, it’s nice and warm. You don’t feel the temperatur­e change but at one point you think, ‘Wow. It’s actually pretty cold in this bath.’ For me, that’s the way depression was. One day I was like, ‘Oh my gosh. I have been slipping and slipping and slipping and denying the fact that I really am sick. There really is something wrong with me. Who I was is now gone and who I’ve been replaced with is someone I don’t want to be.’

Q How did you find help?

A Without any hesitation whatsoever, I was seeking out a psychiatri­st. At that point, the stigma (of mental illness) had no effect on me. I literally walked into a psychiatri­st’s office and said, ‘When I walk out of here I need a prescripti­on because I am really sick.’

Q Do you remember how you felt the day you went for help?

A That actual memory has translated into something I try to encourage people with. Change is hope. If you’ve been sick long enough that you’d consider going to the doctor — six months, a year, five years, a lifetime — at a certain point you become resigned to it. You have no hope of being better the next day unless you change something.

Q At the time you got sick, you were successful, you had fame, you, presumably, were wealthy. Yet you were still depressed …

A I had, by most people’s definition, everything that you would want. I had a job that I loved, a family I loved, I had parents in my life … but still I was sick. I try to convey the sense that having good things in your life doesn’t insulate you from cancer and it doesn’t insulate you from depression, either. Not that there can’t be a link between life’s circumstan­ces and depression, but for me it had nothing to do with it.

Q What made you decide to go public with your struggle?

A I never hid my struggles from anyone I worked with or my family. I didn’t tiptoe in with my jacket pulled up to see my psychiatri­st. But I never spoke about it with the platforms I have like Off the Record. I never thought it would impact anyone. I thought people would say, ‘Michael, who gives a s--- about your problems? Who cares?

Then, without the purpose of helping anyone, I asked Stéphane Richer on the show. I said, ‘You don’t know me, feel free to say no, but I read that you suffered depression in the ‘90s and that you actually attempted suicide after winning the Stanley Cup. I think people would like to know how you’re doing.’ I told him that when I threw it out there I’d say that I have struggled as well. It was very painful for him, but he said OK.

So we went on air and we talked about it for a short period and that was it. I thought it was interestin­g television. Then I started getting emails from people and I was shocked by what they said. Virtually all of them can be summed up like this: ‘Dear Michael. I’ve never told this to anyone, but watching you and Stéphane Richer talk about your own struggles without shame or fear, I feel powerful enough to say I’ve struggled for X number of years …’ That moment — when I saw those emails — that changed my life. What a great gift. Shame on me if I don’t use it.

Q Is talking openly about mental health part of your own healing?

A No. I’m a chronic, lifelong sufferer of depression. I’m on medication today and I will be for the rest of my life. Every time I’ve gone off the medication I’ve relapsed. But after 2008, when I fell in the deepest hole of my life and suffered through the deepest pain of my life, I decided that I will never be without treatment.

Q Can you describe the 2008 relapse?

A In 2008 I had a chronic worry over someone I loved and my anxiety went through the roof. I fell into this really, really severe depression. I did what many people do when they go off medication, I said, ‘I can do this myself. I can beat this thing.’

I was in Montreal for the 2008 Grey Cup and I can remember being in a hotel room, sitting on the edge of my bed at 4 a.m., thinking that if you told me this is what I had to exist with for the rest of my life, I couldn’t have gone on. I wasn’t suicidal, but I was desperate for the pain to end. It was my wife who said I had to go back on medication.

Q How important to you is your role as an advocate?

A I’m not an advocate for medication. I’m an advocate for getting help. So many people you hear them say, ‘I don’t believe in medication.’ That’s just foolish. But what I can really help people with is that sense of loneliness, that feeling that no one knows what I’m going though. Depression is a language. If you haven’t felt it, you can’t speak the language.

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