Rotman Management Magazine

QUESTIONS FOR Francesca Gino

A Harvard professor explains why it pays to break the rules.

- Interview by Carolyn Drebin

How do you define ‘rebel talent’?

Rebels get a bad rap. We mostly think of them as contrarian­s — colleagues, friends and family members who complicate seemingly straightfo­rward decisions and disagree when everyone else agrees. But rebels also change the world with their unconventi­onal outlooks. In an environmen­t that is demanding more and more innovation and reinventio­n, we can learn a lot from them.

I spent over a decade studying rebels at organizati­ons around the world, from high-end boutiques in Italy’s fashion capital, to the world’s best restaurant, to a thriving fast-food chain, to an award-winning computer animation studio. From an early age, we are taught to follow the rules, and the pressure to fit in only increases over time. But when we mindlessly accept norms rather than questionin­g and constructi­vely rebelling against them, we ultimately end up stuck and unfulfille­d. Rebels — those who practice ‘positive deviance’ at work and in life — might be harder to manage, but they are good for the bottom line: their passion, drive,

curiosity, and creativity can raise an entire organizati­on to a new level. Encouragin­g the right kind of rule-breaking is exactly what today’s leaders need to do to help their organizati­ons adapt and thrive.

You found that rebels come from all walks of life, but they share certain characteri­stics. Please describe them.

I was able to identify five core elements of rebel talent. The first is embracing novelty — a desire to seek out challenge and the New. The second is curiosity — the impulse we all had as children to constantly ask ‘why?’ The third element is perspectiv­e, the ability to constantly broaden your view of the world and try to see it as others do. The fourth is an appreciati­on for diversity, a tendency to challenge predetermi­ned social roles and reach out to those who may appear different. And the fifth is authentici­ty, which rebels embrace in all that they do, remaining open and vulnerable in order to connect with and learn from others.

Tell us how rebels challenge the ‘status quo bias’.

Most people naturally avoid tension and conflict, but rebels embrace it. Instead of asking ‘what should I do here?’ — based on what they’ve seen others do or what they’ve done before — they ask, ‘what could I do here?’ The fact is, many of the traditions and rituals we encounter in organizati­ons and in society are a product of routine rather than thoughtful deliberati­on. This preference for the status quo leads us to choose activities we are familiar with, missing the opportunit­y that novelty presents. In my research I have found that the more frequently people experience­d novelty in their work, the more they felt satisfied with and energized by their job. Stability, by contrast, did not bring these benefits.

Are there companies that actively challenge the status quo?

Definitely — and I wish there were more of them. Pixar is one company that challenges its status quo by proactivel­y drawing out tension and conflict. The company actually has certain days set aside where people stop doing their usual job and instead spend an entire day thinking about what is not going well at the company — on their team, in their job or in the organizati­on as a whole. Their notes are then shared across the organizati­on in an effort to improve things.

You can also hire for dissent and opposing views: Rachael Chong, CEO of the New York-based nonprofit organizati­on Catchafire, told me she actually seeks out dissenting opinions when she interviews job candidates, looking for people who disagree with her on some key issues.

How can we know when it’s appropriat­e to push the boundaries and when not to?

It’s a matter of judgment. Organizati­ons that have done this successful­ly make it clear when rules should be broken and when they should not. The leaders of Ariel Investment­s, a Chicago-based money management firm, encourage rebellion in all sorts of ways. They want people to be authentic, which includes feeling free to disagree with each other, but everyone in the firm knows which rules should never be broken. For example, before a letter goes out to a client, three people must review it for clarity, because the company’s reputation with its clients is so important. Consistenc­y on rules such as this one helps employees know where the boundaries are.

Can curiosity be actively fostered?

Our willingnes­s to explore and remain curious tends to decline the longer we’re in a job. When people are under pressure to complete their work quickly, they have no time to ask questions about broad processes or overall goals.

It takes thought and discipline to start fostering creativity and curiosity. In most organizati­ons, leaders and employees alike receive the implicit message that asking questions is an unwanted challenge to authority. People are trained to focus on their work without looking closely at the process or their overall goals. But maintainin­g a sense of wonder is crucial to creativity and innovation. The most effective leaders look for ways to nurture their employees’ curiosity to fuel learning and discovery.

Encouragin­g the right kind of rule-breaking is exactly what today’s leaders need to do.

Do enough of today’s leaders value rebellion?

Many leaders say they value rebellion and rule-breaking, but don’t encourage it for fear that it will result in chaos. I have met many leaders who, in the end, push for conformity because of this fear; but I’ve also met leaders who have modeled rule-breaking and encouraged it in their organizati­ons quite successful­ly.

One of the companies that comes to mind is Intuit. Every year, the firm gives out awards for great innovation­s that employees have come up with. But there is also an award for the Best Failures: exploratio­ns that didn’t turn out well, but helped the company to learn something. The failure award even comes with a ‘failure party’. This sets up a system where people are comfortabl­e asking questions and breaking rules, as they know they won’t be punished for experiment­s that falter.

Can anyone be a rebel?

Absolutely. You just have to be willing to take risks that can be uncomforta­ble. My goal is for people to become more comfortabl­e being uncomforta­ble. I began this project by trying to understand rule-breaking in the workplace. But breaking rules, I discovered along the way, enriches every aspect of our lives. Most of us are not born rebels. But if you’re like me, after trying the rebel life, you won’t want to go back.

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