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Margaret Brigley on the pollster’s art

- JOHN DEMONT jdemont@herald.ca @Ch_coalblackh­rt

Margaret Brigley, the Halifax-born and Mount Saint Vincent University-educated CEO of Narrative Research, started out in communicat­ions, not market research, but the transition was a natural one. Her passion, she told me this week, has always been telling stories. Market research provides an insight into storytelli­ng in that it gives a peek into the psychology of people, an insight into why they do what they do and, most importantl­y for our purposes, what they are likely to do in the future.

Though you might not know it, except for the controvers­y about candidate vetting, Nova Scotia is in the midst of an election — the first of a handful in Canada since the pandemic hit. So Brigley, who has registered a hole-in-one on the golf course but prefers being around the water, whether swimming or sailing, dropped into Saltwire’s Halifax studio to

explain the pollster's craft, why this election is different from those of the past, but how, in some ways, it may be exactly the same.

Our conversati­on has been abridged and shorted for space reasons.

JD: You've been doing this for a long time. In a broad sense, what do we know about the voting patterns of Nova Scotians?

MB: Well, we have for more than 20 years been tracking satisfacti­on with provincial government­s, and we've also been tracking voting intentions every single quarter, regardless of whether or not there's an election. And we know that Nova Scotians, and Atlantic Canadians, are very passionate about their province, and about their government­s as well.

JD: Does one measuremen­t matter more than another?

MB: Well, I think they're both two important metrics. What's been really interestin­g is, in all of our years tracking satisfacti­on with provincial government­s' performanc­e across Atlantic Canada, we have never seen a provincial government re-elected if their satisfacti­on numbers were below 50 per cent, and we've never seen them not re-elected if their satisfacti­on levels were above that.

JD: What do those satisfacti­on numbers look like for Nova Scotia right now?

MB: Well, this is a really interestin­g story right now, because things have changed as a result of the pandemic. If I look back to February prepandemi­c, so February 2020, government satisfacti­on here in Nova Scotia was like at 48 per cent. So, under that 50 per cent mark. But the pandemic made a difference. Right now, in May of 2021, the satisfacti­on rate now is 76 per cent, a very high level.

JD: Have you ever seen it that high?

MB: Unpreceden­ted in Nova Scotia. In fact, the last highest was back with John Hamm, and it was then it reached as high as 69 per cent. So, you can see satisfacti­on is a really important metric. Then we watch, in addition to voting intentions, satisfacti­on which influences intentions. If people are satisfied, if the electorate is satisfied with the performanc­e, they're not really motivated to make change. So that in itself can influence things like voter turnout.

JD: What's your theory on why the pandemic has helped government satisfacti­on, and is this so in other provinces?

MB: We have seen unpreceden­t levels of satisfacti­on with provincial government­s, regardless of political stripe, during the pandemic, but and this really goes to your point, what does it have to do with the pandemic? I think that in general in Nova Scotia, and certainly in Atlantic Canada, the public has been satisfied with the performanc­e of the way that the government has responded and reacted to the crisis at hand. And we need to keep in mind that during a crisis, unless it's a crisis that's caused by the government, if the government is managing it, that's actually good news for them.

JD: So, based on your 50 per cent baseline, this election seems over before it has even begun, or can things change?

MB: I think anything can change in an election. What's really important too is, aside from voter satisfacti­on, we've got a couple of things that are important considerat­ions this election. One is the election is in the summer. And we know that turnout will be negatively impacted because that's always the case when we see a summertime election. People aren't really as motivated to go turn out. They might be more motivated now to go to the cottage or to visit friends and family, now that we can. So that's one factor. But another really important factor is that you'll recall that the electoral map was changed, right? So, there are a number of dynamics at play here. We've moved from 51 to 55 ridings. And even more importantl­y, we've got a number of new candidates in ridings. So the Liberals, for instance, they've lost a lot of incumbents, where they've chosen not to run again. That creates a whole different dynamic. The individual­s coming in, they don't have that relationsh­ip (with voters). And I think the time of change is something that could potentiall­y benefit the opposition, or any other party other than the governing party, depending on the candidates they have.

JD: Will the premier's DUIS be an issue?

MB: Well, we don't know yet. We will be going into the field to collect data during the next tracking. Certainly in May, after his first quarter in power, certainly, he didn't drop satisfacti­on at all. So he really held his own. Now, certainly the DUI, I don't know what impact that will be. Our polling was before that. But I would question, ... given that it's not a current challenge or issue, ould that be enough to take that satisfacti­on with the government to a level that would truly impact voting intentions?

JD: What is the narrative for the Progressiv­e Conservati­ves and the NDP?

MB: We know that the most important issue for Nova Scotians in the past year has been the pandemic and the economy. It's been such a crisis, that's not surprising. But there are other issues that are so important to Nova Scotians, like health care and also the environmen­t, that could be platforms for the opposition, certainly to provide them with an opportunit­y to show how they might do something different. Because when you've got satisfacti­on levels as high as they are, the electorate needs to be motivated to make change. They need to be convinced that ... another premier is going to do something differentl­y to really make a difference.

JD: In what other ways do you expect the pandemic to influence the election?

MB: I think that, without a doubt, you won't see the door-to-door knocking that we would have experience­d or the larger events that we've experience­d in the past. So that makes it more challengin­g for the parties. And then for any of the candidates, they really need to do everything they can to create a relationsh­ip and increase their awareness and familiarit­y within the electorate.

JD: When you look at everything, all the things that we have talked about, how does this election look?

MB: Well, I think that when you look at the satisfacti­on levels, and even the voting intentions in May, I would certainly say that I would not expect change. However, as I mentioned, a poll is a snapshot at any point in time, and there are a number of dynamic changes in play right now, especially with the new candidates and changes in the ridings. So, you know, anything can happen in life. And then the other thing that can happen in the election is how people react to problems that may become evident or just the discussion­s carried on. So, we need to watch the campaign to really see what impact each of the candidates has.

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 ?? RYAN TAPLIN • THE CHRONICLE HERALD ?? Margaret Brigley, CEO of Narrative Research, was interviewe­d at The Chronicle Herald office Thursday.
RYAN TAPLIN • THE CHRONICLE HERALD Margaret Brigley, CEO of Narrative Research, was interviewe­d at The Chronicle Herald office Thursday.

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