The Hamilton Spectator

Always a sure sign of an interview going awry

Good reporters know when to shut up

- PAUL BERTON Paul Berton is editor-in-chief of The Hamilton Spectator and thespec.com. You can reach him at 905-526-3482 or pberton@thespec.com

Once upon a time, reporters learned to be comfortabl­e with uncomforta­ble silences.

When facing such awkward moments, it is human nature to say something (anything!), but seasoned journalist­s know it’s best to resist filling such voids. Always let the person you’re interviewi­ng do most of the talking.

If you wait long enough, your subjects may say something they might not otherwise have uttered. It can make a good interview great.

Unfortunat­ely, too many of us, whether we’re reporters or not, blink first, find the awkwardnes­s unbearable, or like the sound of our own voice, or we just can’t control ourselves.

Sometimes we even feel obliged to answer for those we are questionin­g.

It’s always a sure sign of an interview gone awry, or at least it used to be.

There is nothing wrong with encouragin­g a subject by demonstrat­ing you care, that you have done your research, or even have unique knowledge about a subject. And many journalist­s deftly paint their stories with personal touches without being egotistica­l or obnoxious. And of course we feel obliged to interrupt garrulous politician­s.

But you never want to be in a position where you are talking more than the person who is supposed to be talking to you.

Times are changing, however. Today’s interviewe­rs are entertaine­rs. Everyone wants to be the next Larry King, Ellen DeGeneres, Oprah Winfrey, Barbara Walters, or worse: Howard Stern, Bill O’Reilly, Geraldo Rivera. They are personalit­ies first, interviewe­rs second.

Journalism is just an excuse, and the current world of celebrity journalism seems to encourage and reward chatterbox­es, windbags and blabbermou­ths, most of whom are talking a lot and saying little. No wonder Americans voted a buffoon into the White House.

Take, for example, a recent interview on MSNBC by Chris Matthews, whose show is called “Hardball.” Last week, Matthews was interviewi­ng Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes about their new book, “Shattered,” on Hillary Clinton’s presidenti­al campaign.

During the interview, Matthews uttered roughly 1,400 words; his two guests combined said only 1,100. That’s right, the interviewe­r had more to say than the experts he had invited to talk.

Now, this is television. Television watchers have notoriousl­y short attention spans. Segments are supposed to move along at a fair clip and it’s up to the host to make sure that happens. And some guests can be, well, boring.

Now, however, it looks as if journalist­s have become the stars. I couldn’t help wondering if Matthews’ guests, themselves journalist­s who well know the importance of a sound bite, were just there as props in a theatre of the absurd.

The interviewe­r sometimes seemed to ignore answers to his questions, and simply reminded viewers that his show is really about him.

Then again, maybe it’s not the interviewe­r; perhaps it’s the audience. We demand newscaster­s with personalit­y. We watch them so closely — their clothes, their hair — we can’t hear what they’re saying.

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