The Telegram (St. John's)

Merb’y Hasan Hai answers 20 Questions

Merb’y opens up about difficult path to becoming kindness champion

- JUANITA MERCER Twitter: @juanitamer­cer_

You might know him as the bearded merman frequently seen around St. John’s doing good deeds.

Whether it’s shovelling driveways, fundraisin­g for various causes through Merb’ys calendar sales or inviting strangers into his home for Thanksgivi­ng dinner, Hasan Hai seems perpetuall­y busy spreading kindness.

But who is the man behind the beard?

During his lunch break on Friday (yes, he has an actual 9-5 job), Hai greets The Telegram’s Juanita Mercer with a hug. Over coffee at Long’s Hill Cafe & Bookshelf, he insists he’s “just a regular guy who committed to doing some stuff.”

“I wake up feeling like garbage some days. I struggle with all the same things everyone else does. The same demons are at my heels like they are at everyone else.”

He smiles sincerely and strokes his long beard while talking.

He’s clad in a bright pink T-shirt with “Free Hugs” written across the front.

It’s hard to picture Hai in 2013. He describes himself at that time as a man with “a laundry list of bad human traits.”

Hai refers to the meme of the dog sitting in a burning room. The one with the caption that reads, “This is fine.”

“You can literally train yourself to ignore everything falling apart around you,” he says.

What? There was a time when Hai wasn’t a literal super-merman?

In 20 Questions, Hai opens up about the difficult moments that made him the person he is today. (Some responses have been edited for length.)

1.What is your full name? Hasan Ahmad Hai.

2 . Where and when were you born? Lahore, Pakistan, in 1977.

3. Where do you live today? Mount Pearl.

4 . What is your favourite place in the world?

One of my favourite places I’ve lived is actually Squamish, B.C. I was there for about two years. I looked out at mountains out my front window. And come October or so you would start seeing the frost line dropping, and every day it would drop, like, tens of metres or so. But I love where I am right now. I love Newfoundla­nd and Labrador. (Squamish) was one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever been, but I love everything about this province and where I am right now.

5 . Who do you follow on social media?

I try to keep it somewhat organic as far as people I know or people of interest, or (people) putting out good content. It could be everything from, like, fun meme accounts making me laugh, or just local people who are doing stuff — the makers and the doers around me.

6 . What would people be surprised to learn about you?

That I have a day job. That I actually work for money. (Laughs.) I don’t live this amazing lifestyle where I just, like, throw magic dust and glitter around and help people. I work actually just across the street at a company called Clockwork Fox, and we are a company that makes a math learning platform for kids. So, I get to talk to school districts and help kids love learning math.

7 . What’s been your favourite year and why?

I would say 2013. 2013 was the hardest year of my life. I was at a really low point. I was moving away from Newfoundla­nd. I was actually moving away from my kids to take a job to help support them. So, the story gets better. (Laughs.) Eventually they rejoined me. We lived in Saskatchew­an for a couple of years. But it was my favourite year because I really had to dig really deep, and face a lot of things about myself that I didn’t like, and had been hiding and suppressin­g for many years, as far as dealing with feelings and emotions. And so, it was a year that I started really looking at the world in a different way, and looking at myself in a different way. It was a first step on the path to bringing me where I am today, doing the things I’m doing in the community and for others.

8 . What is the hardest thing you’ve ever done?

I would say making that move. For me, I remember how awful I felt at the prospect of leaving my kids. It was four months and 23 days that I didn’t see my kids, and the first two months or so I wasn’t sure when I was going to see them. I knew of course I would, but it might not have been months.

9 . Can you describe one experience that changed your life?

I was living in Saskatchew­an, and I went to the city of Saskatoon. There was this conference and there was this fellow, Joe Roberts, who was a motivation­al speaker. He was known as the “Skid Row CEO.” He told a story, and the abridged version of it is that he was this kid who, when he was young, was in a family with an abusive step-parent. And he ran away from home, got involved with drugs. As he was telling the story, he talked about a situation where he sat down at a park bench. I think he traded his shoes for drugs. So, he’s sitting there with bare feet, and this other fellow, this older guy, wanted to bum a smoke off him or something like that, but he talked to him. And he says to him, “Joe, you’re better than this. You have potential. You don’t need to be here.” And he describes that moment as someone who saw value and beauty and potential in him that he himself didn’t see. This was at a safety conference of all things, (laughs), and I was just sitting there crying in the back of the room. This guy got to me, and forever changed me. It changed how I view people, and how I talk to people.

10 . What is your favourite movie or book?

Favourite book is an older hard science fiction called “Dune” by Frank Herbert. It takes place in the distant future. It’s kind of like “Game of Thrones” in space, and in the future. It’s all about this nuance of religion and political control of people, and ultimately they’ve given up on technology in some sense, anything that would replicate the mind — computers, basically, have been outlawed. So, they’ve had to retrain their human minds to do the high-end computatio­nal stuff because there was wars fought over AI and stuff.

11. How do you like to relax?

I dies for a bit of Netflix. “Thor: Ragnarok” — I’m watching it for the 186th time.

12 . What are you reading or watching right now?

Does Facebook count? (Laughs) I have a copy of Mark Critch’s book sitting on my bookshelf which he kindly autographe­d for me. I’ve opened it, I haven’t yet dove into it, but that’s the next one on my reading list. Oh, no! That’s a total lie. I started “The Life of Pi.” You can tell how often I’m reading when I forgot I’m reading this book.

13 . What is your greatest fear?

I come from a moderately religious family, and I was never very spiritual at all. I never believed in God or anything like that. And when you’re in a religious family, there’s a bit of anxiety over that. … As I got a bit older, probably in my 20s, I heard this saying: “The key to life after death is living on in the hearts and minds of others.” What that meant for me is just being relevant and meaningful. I don’t have to cure a disease, or become prime minister, but just affecting people in a way that, even though the memory and the identity of me will fade over time, I’ve had some impact. So, conversely, my fear is to be an irrelevant person. To have lived my life and not had an impact on anyone else. … My biggest fear is to waste opportunit­ies in lifting up others, because I have the ability and the power to do so.

14 . How would you describe your personal fashion statement?

What’s clean? (Laughs.) I dress pretty simply. I’m comfortabl­e in jeans and a T-shirt. I don’t invest a lot of energy as far as how I dress myself. I just like to be comfortabl­e. I go for simpler colours. I mean, I’m currently rockin’ this “Free Hugs” shirt. I guess there’s a statement in that, but I just dress for what fits me well and what makes me feel good.

15 . What is your most treasured possession?

Books, probably. I mean, there’s so many memories tied to some old books I have. Not that they have any financial value, but I’ve had some of them for decades.

16 . What physical or personalit­y trait are you most grateful to a parent for?

It’s a combinatio­n of their endless wells of love — my parents are such loving people, and

they’re so well-regarded in their family and circle of friends as being these enormous hearts. Everyone leans on them, and I aspire to be half the person that they are. And also, sense of humour. I come from hilarious people. … So, it’s just always a laugh with them, but they’re so loving, and so kind, and even when I was in my dark times and my dark places there, it was just this unconditio­nal beacon of light and love from them, and so, I’m so grateful to my parents.

17 . What three people would join you for your dream dinner party?

Three people I don’t know. I want to meet people I don’t know who have lived experience that I’ve never encountere­d. I want people I can learn from.

18 . What is your best quality? My hugs. I’ve been told they’re great.

19 . What is your worst quality?

I try to do everything at once. My ambition is greater than my capacity to do things, at times.

20 . What’s your biggest regret?

I’m not going to say “no regrets,” but I’m happy with my life. There’s aspects that I absolutely love about myself and what I’m doing and there’s things I want to grow in, but I don’t believe in regrets, only because if I were to change anything I wouldn’t be the person I am right now, living the life I am and having the connection­s I do. Like, any one thing I changed would impact the positive parts of what I have. So, if I had the power to change anything, I wouldn’t. … I don’t really believe in regrets, it’s more like lessons learned.

 ?? JUANITA MERCER/THE TELEGRAM ?? He’s a merb’y and chief kindness officer with his do-good group, Project Kindness. He’s even tried running for politics. But Hasan Hai wasn’t always so motivated. He recalls the time about six years ago when he decided to make a change: “It was a moment where I can keep living on the ocean floor, or I can start to try and swim up. So, it was initially just a decision point, and then the work started. I started doing a thing at a time, a step at a time.”
JUANITA MERCER/THE TELEGRAM He’s a merb’y and chief kindness officer with his do-good group, Project Kindness. He’s even tried running for politics. But Hasan Hai wasn’t always so motivated. He recalls the time about six years ago when he decided to make a change: “It was a moment where I can keep living on the ocean floor, or I can start to try and swim up. So, it was initially just a decision point, and then the work started. I started doing a thing at a time, a step at a time.”

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