Toronto Life

The Gatekeeper

As a boy, Ahmed Hussen fled Somalia for Canada. Now, as immigratio­n minister, he has the unenviable job of deciding who gets in and who doesn’t

- by malcolm johnston This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

| Q&A Immigratio­n Minister Ahmed Hussen on Trump, travel bans and what it’s like to be a new Canadian

In January, you became immigratio­n minister. Two weeks later, Donald Trump signed an order banning visitors from seven Muslim-majority countries, including Somalia, the country of your birth. Was this a travel ban or a Muslim ban? Neither. My U.S. counterpar­t, John Kelly, the head of Homeland Security, told me that it was a pause to allow them to deal with travel document integrity and analyze their refugee resettleme­nt program. I have to take him at his word.

The Canadian government has committed to admitting 300,000 permanent residents in 2017, and right now you’re deciding what the number will be in 2018. What can we expect? I don’t have exact numbers yet, but I can assure you it won’t drop. It’s a matter of finding the right mix.

Kellie Leitch, the former Tory leadership contender, made lots of noise on the campaign trail about Canada’s screening process being lax. Did she have a point? No, she didn’t. And her dog-whistle rhetoric was soundly rejected. I don’t think she knows very much about screening.

Are all newcomers interviewe­d in person? No, but we don’t have to in order to assess threats. We screen for criminalit­y, human rights violations, terrorism, health. And the results speak for themselves: we have brought in 40,000 Syrians without compromisi­ng security.

You have intimate experience with Canada’s immigratio­n process, having come here from Somalia as a boy. What were your early years in Mogadishu like? Happy. Lower-middle class. My father owned trucks; my mother ran the household. Neither knew how to read or write.

The Civil War started in the 1980s. When did your family decide to leave? The turning point was in 1991, when the president fled Mogadishu. We headed south in the back of an open truck, and eventually made it to Kenya, where my mother had friends.

Two years later, at age 16, you were bound for Pearson. What were your first impression­s of Canada? The cold! I was wearing dress shoes and a leather jacket. I recall walking from the terminal to the parking lot and thinking, how do people live here? I was also surprised by the cleanlines­s. In Africa, you have clean streets but also mounds of garbage, which someone will eventually light on fire.

How was the transition to life in Canada? Hard and lonely. My older brothers were already here, but my parents were still in Africa. I had to figure out how to use the library and TTC, how to adjust to school and find a job, how to use a bank machine. I was embarrasse­d one day when I had difficulty exiting a Toronto streetcar—I didn’t understand that you had to stand on the step for the door to open.

When did Canada start to feel like home? Once I joined the track and field team in high school. I was 6 foot 5, and I got three athletic scholarshi­ps to the U.S., but I couldn’t go because my permanent residency applicatio­n was backlogged for six years. And without it, I couldn’t get a student loan anyway.

So how did you afford university? I pumped gas in Mississaug­a for $6.85 an hour. I lived in Regent Park, so I took a streetcar, a subway and a bus, and then walked 20 minutes. But I saved enough in eight months to pay for my first year

at York University.

How did you meet your wife? I met her many years later, when I got involved with the Canadian Somali Congress. I recruited her to sit on the board.

Was it love at first sight? Haha, not really. It happened gradually. Our first date was dessert at a place called Williams on Dixon Road. Right now she’s raising our three boys. Our youngest is 11 months, so life is busy.

You eventually became a human rights and immigratio­n lawyer. Why run for office? I used a lot of Canadian taxpayer–funded resources, including affordable housing, in those early years. In 2015, those services were under attack by politician­s. Remember Doug Ford questionin­g the point of libraries? I used the library to print out my resumé! Eventually, a friend said, “If you feel so strongly, why don’t you do something about it?” So I campaigned for office, and here I am.

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