Toronto Star

just call me they

Rae Spoon doesn’t want to be called she. Or he. Spoon is part of a growing group asking people to

- LESLIE SCRIVENER FEATURE WRITER

Canadian singer-songwriter Rae Spoon identifies not as a woman, not as a man, but somewhere in between.

To Spoon, and what appears to be an increasing­ly vocal minority, gender is “more like a whole galaxy.”

Which introduces the problem of pronouns. Spoon says he has expectatio­ns of maleness, she of female. So Spoon, 32, likes to be referred to as “they.” Others prefer “ze” and “hir” (pronounced “hear”) or “per” (short for person).

The last decade has seen the growth of the transgende­r community. The community includes transsexua­ls — those who aspire to be the opposite gender of the one they were assigned at birth, and perhaps have surgery and/or hormone treatment to achieve that end. But not all transgende­r people want to be male or female.

Australia and New Zealand now allow citizens to be neither male nor female on their passports. Canada and the U.K. are considerin­g a similar move.

“This might be new for many of us,” concedes Sheila Cavanagh, sexuality studies program co-ordinator at York University, “but there is a reluctance to recognize a whole host of ways of being gendered that isn’t determined by our bodies. We have to challenge our presumptio­ns that to be a man is to necessaril­y be masculine and to be a woman is to necessaril­y be feminine.”

Throughout history there have been people who blurred gender roles. Joan of Arc wore masculine dress and is cited as an example of cross-gender activity, and in First Nations there have been gender non-conforming people.

The language around this realm can be confusing. Terms include gender nonconform­ing, gender-independen­t, gender-variant and gender-queer, the latter preferred by younger people.

Use of language can be fluid. Ivan Coyote, a writer who sometimes works with Spoon, likes to use “they,” but when performing in schools also uses she in self-reference. “I have a fairly masculine presence, so in schools I use ‘she’ because I want to present as wide a spectrum as possible of what a female-assigned person or she person can look like.’ ”

How does Coyote want to be referred to for this story? “An artist. Author of 10 books. An activist with youth. A human being. A musician. I’m so many more things than my gender and so much more than someone who doesn’t fit into a gender box.”

Why is it so important? “I’m walking down the street and a guy follows me in his truck for three blocks and pulls over to ask if I am a man or a woman. That happens to me every day — some version of trying to figure out what gender I am, how much respect he has . . . and whether he’s allowed to feel sexual attraction . . . and he does not know how to relate to me until he can understand what gender I am.”

Another question: has Coyote had sexreassig­nment surgery? Why ask, Coyote responds. “If you don’t fit into the gender binary, it’s acceptable to ask if you had surgery when they are really asking about your genitals. You wouldn’t ask a woman if she had breast surgery.”

We can try, for the purposes of this story, to refer to Spoon as they. It’s not easy. Spoon, who was raised as a girl in an evangelica­l family in Calgary and now lives in Montreal, came out as transgende­r 10 years ago and started using the pronoun “he” instead of “she.” But now, they felt there were certain expectatio­ns that came with male identity. “Even in the queer community, there would be pressure,” they said. “You are supposed to do male things. As if you are expected to earn your pronoun . . . ”

TONY BRIFFA “Even in the queer community, there would be pressure.”

RAE SPOON “For me language is very important. It defines my identity. It’s what’s at your core.” TREANOR MAHOOD-GREER

On the other hand, there were encounters with people who said Spoon was a woman. “‘You have hips.’ ‘You don’t have facial hair’ or ‘Your voice is high.’ But not one of those things makes you male or female.”

There were further probing questions: why not have surgery or hormone therapy — which Spoon has not — to look male/masculine. Now Spoon chooses to use “they.”

There was a dust-up last year when they refused to be interviewe­d by Xtra, Canada’s gay and lesbian newspaper, believing

“I am now comfortabl­e being the person nature made me.”

editors wouldn’t use “they” in reference to gender-independen­t people.

It was a misunderst­anding, says managing editor Danny Glenwright. The paper never had a policy about using “they” and had in fact used it in previous articles. “It’s not ideal,” he says. “The English language doesn’t provide the solution.”

“Gender expectatio­n comes out of sexism,” Spoon says. “Coming out using the ‘they’ pronoun is refusing to accept a role. Anyone can refuse it.”

Spoon argues that gender expectatio­ns affect everyone, not only those who are gender-independen­t.

“I’m moving toward an openness. The gender binary fails everyone at some point and this is dumb. In my approach to life, I don’t ‘other’ myself, I see myself as part of something everyone is a part of.”

THE WAITRESS AT THE

Yorkville café looks sharply at Elis Ziegler once, twice and three times, trying to figure it out: is she serving an iced coffee to a man or a woman?

“If people do a double-take, I like that. I know who I am. Externally, people may be confused, but I don’t want it to be clear.”

She’s been addressed as miss, ma’am and sir.

The mother of two sons, Ziegler, who works in a social service agency, spent most of her life as a straight woman, came out as a lesbian in 2004 and to her own surprise came out at work three years ago as trans.

It was during a team exercise, and Ziegler and her colleagues were asked to organize themselves in various ways — years in Canada, language and gender.

As her co-workers moved to the right and left, Ziegler stayed put.

“I stayed in the middle.” When the facilitato­r asked her why, she said. “I don’t identify with either gender.”

When she is with women, she says, she doesn’t feel “one of them.”

“I’m more comfortabl­e with men, but don’t care if I don’t fit with them either.”

She adds: “It’s not about choosing. It’s about self-acceptance, and I realized I operated outside of the binary system”

Raised in Japan — her father worked for the U.S. government — she recalls looking at herself in the mirror around puberty and saying, “Does that look like a boy or a girl? I liked what I looked like, in that I wasn’t identified as male or female. And seeing pictures of myself with short hair, not in girly clothing, those are the pictures of me that I liked.”

Now Ziegler, who works in a housing program at East York East Toronto Family Resources, talks of fluidity in her gender expression. She’s having “top surgery,” removal of her breasts. It feels wrong to say she is a woman, she says. “Who am I? I am neither and both. And that’s where I want to be.”

Her sons are comfortabl­e with the evolution of their mother. “She’s not really changed much,” says Aaron, 22. “She’s still my mom. It doesn’t bother me at all.”

As for language, Ziegler would like to avoid pronouns. Instead of “I sent her an email,” “I sent Elis an email.”

“I’d rather have people confuse me for a guy than to be referred to as she,” Ziegler says.

Using “they” doesn’t sit well with Ziegler and other sticklers for grammar. “You’re referring to an individual in the plural.”

For a while S. Bear Bergman, a writer, educator and storytelle­r, campaigned for “gender non-specific” pronouns, including ze and hir. Hir could be especially useful, Bergman argues, in applicatio­ns to avoid awkward constructs such as “when the applicant has completed his/her portfolio . . . ” Instead, Bergman suggests: “hir” portfolio. IN HOBSONS BAY, a city within Melbourne, Australia, Tony Briffa has been mayor and is now a city councillor.

Briffa, too, prefers no pronouns, but is happy if people use male and female pronouns interchang­eably.

Born with a genetic intersex condition called partial androgen insensitiv­ity syndrome, Briffa, 43, was raised as a girl — male parts were surgically removed — and lived as a woman until 30 before experiment­ing with life as a man. Now Briffa feels a combinatio­n of male and female. “I am now comfortabl­e being the person nature made me,” Briffa writes in an email.

Working in public life does add pressure, Briffa says. Choosing an identity as male or female made life easier as a politician, “but it’s a lot of work and meant I wasn’t true to my nature.” MOST PEOPLE DON’Tthink about gender identity, says Treanor MahoodGree­r, 56, a transgende­r social worker living in North Bay. “All my life I’ve thought about gender and the desire to do masculine things. I say masculine because there is no other word for it. I wish our language was like the Innu who have so many words for snow. For me, gender, I’m sorry, we just have men and women, male and female.

Mahood-Greer doesn’t identify as female, is taking testostero­ne and will undergo breast surgery. “When I say I don’t identify as a woman, people are quick and eager to say, ‘OK, you can be a man.’ But I don’t know what it feels like to be a man. I know what it feels like to be me.” Mahood- Greer advocated for the word “per,” but like most who try new word usage, found it didn’t take.

“For me language is very important. It defines my identity. It’s what’s at your core . . . I think about my core identity because it’s in my face all the time.”

 ?? J.J. LEVINE ?? Montreal musician Rae Spoon, 32, prefers to be referred to by the pronoun they.
J.J. LEVINE Montreal musician Rae Spoon, 32, prefers to be referred to by the pronoun they.
 ?? ANDREW FRANCIS WALLACE/TORONTO STAR ?? Elis Ziegler, left, with son Aidan Simmons. Ziegler spent most of her life as a heterosexu­al female but came out as a lesbian, and now feels neither exclusivel­y female nor exclusivel­y male.
ANDREW FRANCIS WALLACE/TORONTO STAR Elis Ziegler, left, with son Aidan Simmons. Ziegler spent most of her life as a heterosexu­al female but came out as a lesbian, and now feels neither exclusivel­y female nor exclusivel­y male.
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