Toronto Star

Premiers slam NDP Senate plan

Wynne calls Mulcair’s plan to eliminate upper chamber ‘a bit of magical thinking’

- ROBERT BENZIE QUEEN’S PARK BUREAU CHIEF

QUEBEC CITY— Canada risks being plunged into a debilitati­ng unity crisis if a future prime minister tries to abolish the Senate without the provinces’ consent, warns Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard.

In a salvo mostly aimed at federal NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair, both Couillard and Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne said such a unilateral move would open a Pandora’s Box of problems for the whole country.

“The abolition of the upper chamber is totally contrary to Quebec’s interests and I will always object to that. I don’t see how a federal government could do this on its own,” the staunchly federalist Quebec premier said here Friday at a joint cabinet meeting with Ontario ministers.

“It cannot be done without the provinces — changing or abolishing, whatever you want to say — and without a constituti­onal conference, during which we will have other topics to discuss.”

Such a discussion would mean revisiting the divisive issues that dominated the 1987 Meech Lake Accord and the 1992 Charlottet­own Accord, the failed bids to get Quebec to sign the Constituti­on.

“It would be a very serious mistake on my part because it would put Quebec in a very weak situation,” said Couillard.

“Quebec would only participat­e if its traditiona­l demands are also on the table and these demands are well known,” he said, referring to his province’s call to be recognized as a “distinct society” with additional powers.

Couillard also said that underminin­g the Senate by stealth through not naming senators is a non-starter.

“Some leaders have said they will not appoint senators anymore, which is a way of doing indirectly what you cannot do directly, which I also object to.”

Wynne mocked Mulcair for suggesting any federal deficit could be eliminated by scrapping the Senate.

“It’s a bit of magical thinking. It’s unrealisti­c. It’s not rooted in what would actually have to happen. There would have to be a national discussion,” she said.

Mulcair has insisted that an NDP win on Oct.19 would give him a mandate to begin the process of eliminatin­g the upper house.

He also told the CBC earlier this week that “the Senate is going to have to realize there’s a government that’s just been elected with, I would hope, a majority in the house of commons,” so laws will have to be passed even though there are no NDP senators because the party opposes the patronage body.

“When that legislatio­n is . . . adopted by the people who have been put there by Canadian voters, they’re going to be given the legislatio­n and asked to pass it so it can be promulgate­d into law.”

Talk of Senate changes overshadow­ed the memorandum­s of understand­ing the two provincial government­s signed here, which will see Ontario buying more Quebec electricit­y and working together to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

 ?? JACQUES BOISSINOT/THE CANADIAN PRESS ?? Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne and her Quebec counterpar­t, Philippe Couillard, both oppose the NDP’s plan to abolish the Senate without consent of the provinces.
JACQUES BOISSINOT/THE CANADIAN PRESS Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne and her Quebec counterpar­t, Philippe Couillard, both oppose the NDP’s plan to abolish the Senate without consent of the provinces.

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