Toronto Star

Just go for it, implies Bank of Canada’s governor

- Thomas Walkom

Bank of Canada governor Stephen Poloz is prepared to penalize savers in order to get a stalled economy moving again.

That’s one lesson from his intriguing and far-reaching speech to Toronto’s Empire Club on Tuesday.

But the more important lesson is his statement that this task could be better accomplish­ed by the federal government running deficits.

Citing the late British economist John Maynard Keynes, the central bank chief reminded his audience that when interest rates are already low, fiscal policy (the willingnes­s of government­s to spend more than they take in) is always more powerful than monetary policy (attempts by central banks to promote investment).

In effect, he was telling Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Finance Minister Bill Morneau to go for it — to run deficits if necessary in order to get the country working again. Being prudent, Poloz didn’t commit the sin of formally recommendi­ng anything to Morneau in this speech.

Central bankers tend not to comment publicly on what finance ministers should do, and vice versa.

But the message was there nonetheles­s. And it’s worth dissecting Poloz’s speech to see how he approaches the current slump.

First, Poloz does not believe the world is stuck in the rut of longterm stagnation.

He thinks we’re caught in a cyclical slump, albeit a long one. And he thinks matters are improving. In this sense, he’s optimistic. But he’s not that optimistic — which is why he spent most of his speech talking about so-called unconventi­onal methods that the Bank of Canada might have to use if the economy starts to go down the drain again. One of these unconventi­onal methods is relatively convention­al — creating money out of thin air.

Qualitativ­e easing, as it is called, would involve the Bank of Canada buying long-term assets (such as corporate bonds) and paying for them with, as the Economist magazine puts it, “electronic cash that did not exist before.”

Another is to encourage banks to lend more money by penalizing them when they don’t.

This is the so-called negative interest-rate scenario. It would involve the central bank not paying but charging interest on commercial bank monies deposited with it.

Poloz said the penalty negative interest rate could be as much as 0.5 per cent.

Would this rebound on people who, in turn, park their savings in commercial banks? In response to questions, Poloz said no. But he may be overly optimistic.

In Switzerlan­d, where the practice already exists, one commercial bank has served notice that it will start explicitly charging its depositors negative interest next year.

This means that those who insist on leaving their savings deposited in this particular bank could see them shrink bit by bit until nothing is left.

Poloz was quick to say that he has no plans to use unconventi­onal methods, that he is just being prudent.

Then, in almost an afterthoug­ht, he came to the most important part of his speech: that while he is willing to employ unusual monetary tactics if necessary, it would be far better for a government faced with economic crisis to simply spend its way out of trouble.

Or, as he put it: “It may sound ironic, but the circumstan­ces under which it may be more appropriat­e to consider unconventi­onal monetary policies are also those under which fiscal policy tends to be more effective.”

To its credit, Trudeau’s Liberals appear willing to follow through on their campaign pledge and do just that — increase spending, even though doing so will lead to deficits for at least three years.

Like most finance ministers, Morneau is fairly slippery. But in recent pronouncem­ents, both he and Trudeau have indicated that these spending commitment­s will hold even if the deficits he runs exceed the Liberal campaign target of $10 billion annually.

Will the government hold to its campaign pledge of balancing the books before the next election? Morneau says yes. But Poloz could tell him that it’s wise to be prudent. Canada’s wobbly economy may not be on firm ground by 2019.

In such a case, more unconventi­onal methods may be needed. The most effective method, as Poloz has pointed out, is not to engage in arcane central bank practices.

It is to have the federal government keep running deficits. Thomas Walkom’s column appears Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday.

 ?? CHRIS HELGREN/REUTERS ?? Bank of Canada governor Stephen Poloz told the Empire Club of Canada that he thinks we’re stuck in a long cyclical slump.
CHRIS HELGREN/REUTERS Bank of Canada governor Stephen Poloz told the Empire Club of Canada that he thinks we’re stuck in a long cyclical slump.
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