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SHE MADE PAROLE

Showrunner explains what wrapping this sprawling show looks like

- ELEANOR STANFORD

Orange is the New Black creator talks about what it’s like to end the show,

Orange Is the New Black is coming to the end of its sentence.

The final season of Jenji Kohan’s groundbrea­king show about inmates in a women’s penitentia­ry arrived on Netflix on Friday. In 2013, the show introduced us to Piper (Taylor Schilling), a New Yorker with an artisanal soap company. Piper went to prison after pleading guilty to an old charge of carrying drug money and we were introduced to a sprawling population of indelible women incarcerat­ed alongside her. The show has crammed a vast plot and many characters into what amounts to only about 18 months of fictional time, including multiple prison gang power grabs, deaths, rapes, births, escapes, a riot and a big move from minimum to maximum security.

While Piper left prison in the Season 6 finale, after finishing her sentence, her new wife, Alex (Laura Prepon), is still incarcerat­ed, and Season 7 opens to find Taystee (Danielle Brooks) coming to terms with a life sentence after being convicted of murdering a guard.

What does successful­ly wrapping up this sprawling show look like for its creator? “Impact and connection, more than anything,” Kohan said in a phone interview this month. “Even if people are nothing like these characters, if they can recognize the emotional truth of their human experience, then it’s been a success.”

Kohan, who also created Weeds and GLOW, reflected on why she finds dramedy more realistic than straight drama, how she shapes her characters’ back stories and why she tells her kids to talk to strangers. How does it feel to be coming to the end of seven seasons of the show?

It’s a mixed bag. I’m ready to be out of prison. It takes up a lot of psychologi­cal space, and it can be oppressive and difficult and depressing. But it was a privilege to do this show. The people that came together to build it and inhabit it were remarkable, and the fact that we got to normalize diversity — it’s really hard to give that up. But seven years is a good run, and it was time.

The early seasons explored how and why women end up in prison, and this final season seems really to focus on how incarcerat­ion changes people. When did you know the shape of different characters’ arcs?

Every year, we start three or four months before shooting as a writers’ room, and we talk about our goals, about issues we want to write about, about stories we want to tell. That’s how the season begins to take shape. So, by the time we start writing, we’ve spent weeks and weeks just throwing things on the board, and figuring out those arcs and those stories.

So, it was part of the process that we take on every year, only this year the stakes were a little higher because we wanted to wrap up the show. Do you see the show as a form of protest?

It’s a call to awareness, a call to empathy and a call to feel injustice and want to do something about it. At the same time, I feel like my first job is to entertain, and hopefully people just have a good experience in watching it.

In this new season, there are story lines around ICE detention centres and the #MeToo movement, as well as prison. How do you balance these heavy topics with making the show entertaini­ng and funny?

I think that it’s organic. I’m a strong believer in humour for survival. I don’t believe a drama that is 100 per cent dramatic, because that’s not how we live and function as human beings. So I find it very natural to slam comedy up against tragedy, because it mirrors life.

So, I want to talk a little about the show’s legacy. I don’t feel as if Orange got the credit it deserved sometimes.

This is for you to say, not for me to say. (Laughs.) And I felt the same way about Weeds, frankly. I can’t rely on public perception or accolades — I’ve got to keep my head down and do the work, otherwise I’d be crushed. It’s not an area I focus on a lot, except late at night when I can’t sleep. One of the ways Orange was ahead of its time is the diversity of the cast, right from Season 1.

It’s so important because I think for so long (television) hasn’t been a natural representa­tion of the population, and it should be. But before all of the diversity and the inclusion or whatever, our baseline is talent. You can be a Black lesbian in a wheelchair, and that’s great. You tick a lot of boxes. But if you can’t act, I’m sorry, you’re not getting the part. And because (people of colour and other marginaliz­ed groups) had been neglected, there was so much talent. It was like, oh my God, people have been idiots for not tapping that.

Your shows often portray women’s stories that are offbeat, or at least rarely seen. What’s your process for conceiving show concepts?

I hate to define my brand, but what I’m really more interested in than offbeat women’s stories is crossroads, where really different people are forced to interact with one another.

Have you experience­d that yourself?

Absolutely. They’ve been some of the best times in my life. My first job was on “The Fresh Prince of Bel Air,” and while on that job, I learned to play dominoes. I ended up on the boardwalk in Venice Beach by the basketball courts, playing with a really assorted group of fellas, to the point where I was running down there every afternoon.

I spent time with all sorts of people who were very unlike me, and who had very different background­s, and different races, and different experience­s. It was so much fun, and I think that might have been one of the first times I was really aware of how exciting that could be.

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DIA DIPASUPIL NETFLIX “The fact that we got to normalize diversity — it’s really hard to give that up,” Orange is the New Black creator Jenji Kohan says.

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