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‘THE POPCORN EVENT OF THE YEAR’

TRUMP’S UNPREDICTA­BILITY VS. CLINTON’S CAREFUL CASE

- PHILIP RUCKER, ROBERT COSTA AND ANNE GEARAN

Hillary Clinton is methodical­ly preparing for the presidenti­al debates as a veteran lawyer would approach her biggest trial. She pores over briefing books thick with policy arcana and opposition research. She internaliz­es tips from the most seasoned debate coaches in her party. And she rehearses, over and over again, to perfect the pacing and substance of her presentati­on.

Donald Trump is taking a different approach. He summons his informal band of counsellor­s — including former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani, talk-radio host Laura Ingraham and ousted Fox News Channel chairman Roger Ailes — to his New Jersey golf course for Sunday chats. Over bacon cheeseburg­ers, hotdogs and glasses of Coca-Cola, they test out zingers and chew over ways to refine the Republican nominee’s pitch.

Trump’s aides have put together briefing books, not that the candidate is devoting much time to reading them. Trump isn’t holding any mock debates, proudly boasting that a performer with his talents doesn’t need that sort of prepping. Should Trump submit to traditiona­l rehearsals, some associates are talking about casting Ingraham, an adversaria­l chronicler of Clinton scandals, to play the Democratic nominee.

“Donald Trump is the unpredicta­ble X-factor and Hillary Clinton is the scripted statist,” said Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s new campaign manager. “I fully understand why Team Clinton feels the need to drown her in briefing books and Hollywood consulting.”

Amid a combative period of campaignin­g, during which each has flung ferocious accusation­s, Clinton and Trump are also taking time to warm up for their biggest showdowns. The first of three presidenti­al debates, on Sept. 26, promises to be one of the highestrat­ed television events of the year, the first opportunit­y for voters to evaluate the candidates side by side and one of the last moments for either to alter the trajectory of the race. Clinton’s advisers are confident the debates will showcase her experience, judgment, gravitas and command of policy.

“She feels like it’s a proving ground, that this is a job interview,” Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said. “I think she’ll approach the debate with a great deal of seriousnes­s and a sense of purpose, and also keenly aware that Donald Trump is capable of anything.”

The forum brings considerab­le challenges. Clinton must not only parry what her campaign expects will be a stream of insults and innuendo from Trump, but she also must overcome the perception among many voters that she isn’t trustworth­y.

“People think they have to land zingers and pivot and attack — and that’s true, but ultimately, you want your viewers to come away with a gut feeling that I like this person,” said former Michigan governor Jennifer Granholm, who cochairs Clinton’s transition committee.

For Trump, who trails Clinton in nearly all national and battlegrou­nd state polls, the debates represent perhaps his best opportunit­y to change perception­s.

The outsider candidate needs to convince voters he’s up for the job. Known for an unpredicta­ble and, at times, erratic temperamen­t, Trump must prove he can be a steady commander in chief, with an understand­ing of the issues. And after more than a year of making damaging comments about women and minorities, he’ll try to use the big debate stage to show he’d be an inclusive president.

“You’re going to see a very natural and normal guy — someone who is comfortabl­e with who he is, not someone who’s highly scripted or nervous,” Giuliani said.

“The real risk is when a guy tries to be something other than what he is.”

The first debate, at Hofstra University just outside New York City, will be rife with personal drama. Clinton and Trump are two of the most prominent personalit­ies in a city filled with them. They once had a chummy rapport — Clinton and former president Bill Clinton famously attended Trump’s 2005 wedding to Melania — but they have spent the summer scolding each other in increasing­ly incendiary language.

During the Republican primaries, Trump bragged about taking on Clinton and has eagerly anticipate­d debating her since even before entering the race, according to his associates.

“Not only does he want 100 million viewers, he wants to be a showstoppe­r at the Roman Colosseum, the main event at WrestleMan­ia,” said Sam Nunberg, a former adviser who helped the billionair­e chart his White House run.

“He’s going to love this, eat it up and take her on. For Hillary to go in and think she’ll be profession­al and wonky, or give a long lecture, that’ll play against her.”

Political campaigns often play the expectatio­ns game, and Clinton’s aides are trying to raise the bar for Trump. They insist his years on reality television and his pugnacity and agility in the Republican primary debates make him a fearsome adversary.

“We’re fully expecting to have our hands full,” Fallon said. “It was his television personalit­y that carried the day and made him a success at the (primary) debates. What normally would make for low expectatio­ns in terms of a lack of substance and not sort of exuding that commander-in-chief demeanour has actually been turned on its head.”

The debates are run by the nonpartisa­n Commission on Presidenti­al Debates, which long ago picked the dates and locations: The second is Oct. 9 at Washington University in St. Louis, and the third is Oct. 19 at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas. The commission also hosts one vice-presidenti­al debate, Oct. 4 at Longwood University in Farmville, Va.

To participat­e, the commission requires that candidates average at least 15 per cent in national polls, a threshold neither Libertaria­n party nominee Gary Johnson nor Green party nominee Jill Stein yet meets.

The commission dictates the format and selects the moderators, who are expected to be named soon after Labour Day. Traditiona­lly, the first debate is on domestic policy, the second is a town hall with audience questions and the third is on foreign policy, with the debates divided by subject into 15-minute sections.

So far, only Clinton has agreed to appear. Trump has vowed to negotiate for more favourable terms, saying in a recent interview with the Washington Post that he would try to influence the selection of moderators: “I’d want to have a fair moderator.”

The campaigns are allotted no official input, although the commission historical­ly has accom- modated some requests, such as whether candidates sit around a table or stand behind lecterns.

One potential hiccup: Each debate runs for 90 minutes, with no breaks. In the primary debates, Trump and Clinton both took advantage of frequent commercial breaks to use the restroom or collect their thoughts.

Unlike Clinton, Trump has no official debate team. His strategy is being shaped by an assortment of advisers, family members and friends, some of whom Trump gathered last Sunday at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., to strategize with him as he read printouts of news articles and monitored television news. They plan to reconvene at Bedminster this Sunday.

Present were Conway and newly hired campaign chief executive Stephen Bannon, as well as communicat­ions adviser Jason Miller. They were joined by Ailes and Giuliani, both longtime friends of Trump’s; Ingraham, who is close to Conway and admired by Trump for her cutting Clinton commentary; and Trump’s daughter Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, according to people familiar with the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the talks were private.

They said Ailes shared war stories from campaigns past and insights into the more cinematic elements of politics. The former Fox chief engulfed in a sexual-harassment scandal has been in regular touch with Trump by phone, dispensing advice about television advertisem­ents, speech lines and Clinton attacks.

Conway said of Trump: “He’s an unconventi­onal candidate, so debate prep in the classic sense doesn’t apply to him. That applies to the accoutreme­nts that are usually associated with getting ready for debates: contrived gestures, lecterns, a group of consultant­s in belted khakis holed up in a cabin, the Socratic method of peppering questions. That’s not him.”

Retired army generals Michael Flynn and Joseph “Keith” Kellogg have been tutoring Trump on national security, and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who chairs Trump’s transition project, helps in a variety of areas. Campaign policy adviser Stephen Miller has been assembling Trump’s briefing materials.

On the periphery is David Bossie, president of conservati­ve group Citizens United, who has made a career of investigat­ing the Clintons. Trump also seeks out Roger Stone, a controvers­ial bon vivant and self-proclaimed political dirty trickster, who has advised Trump for decades but no longer works for him.

Asked about Trump’s debate strategy, Stone said: “I don’t believe in telegraphi­ng one’s punches. I don’t want to tell the Clintonite­s.”

So far, Trump has been heavily influenced by flame-throwing Clinton critics, but campaign officials are considerin­g inviting more mainstream Republican­s to join the discussion­s, such as military figures and members of Congress, thinking Trump would benefit from a diversity of perspectiv­es.

Brett O’Donnell, regarded as one of the GOP’s best debate coaches, said Trump should be preparing rigorously.

“He thinks he won all the primary debates,” O’Donnell said. “But he picked his spots, beat up on a candidate and then evaporated for a while and stayed out of the substance. He’s not going to be able to hide like that with just the two of them on stage. ... He can’t just name-call her and have a wrestling match for 90 minutes.”

Republican lawyer Benjamin Ginsberg, a veteran presidenti­al debate adviser, said: “There ain’t no lifelines. You can’t ask an ad- viser what they think, you can’t read off a prompter, and you have to talk far more in-depth about any given subject than you had to in any primary debate.”

Facing off against a female candidate is an additional dimension. Communicat­ions experts said Trump risks appearing like a bully, noting that one of Trump’s worst moments in the primary debates was when Carly Fiorina shamed him for his comments about her looks.

“Odds are any name-calling backfires,” said David Brock, who runs a conglomera­tion of pro-Clinton super PACs. “Any false insinuatio­n that Hillary is old and frail will be countered right on stage with her presence, which conveys the opposite.”

Clinton’s debate negotiatio­ns are led by operative Ronald Klain, who is so steeped in presidenti­al debates that he teaches a course on the subject at Georgetown University, and Washington lawyer Karen Dunn. The two prepare briefing materials and run the practice sessions. Longtime policy adviser Jake Sullivan helps run the sessions. Veteran Clinton lawyer Robert Barnett, media advisers Mandy Grunwald and Jim Margolis, campaign chairman John Podesta, strategist Joel Benenson, and communicat­ions director Jennifer Palmieri often attend or weigh in.

Clinton aides haven’t revealed who is standing in for Trump. They said multiple people could play the role.

Clinton’s aides refused to detail her debate-related activities. Fallon said only: “She does her homework.”

Clinton’s allies said it’s essential that she be ready to stymie any attempt by Trump to come across as sober and serious.

“The man has the thinnest skin that we’ve ever seen, so getting a reaction out of him and pulling the now well-known Trump personalit­y out will be important,” said strategist Stephanie Cutter, a veteran of President Barack Obama’s campaigns.

Clinton’s advice isn’t coming from political profession­als only. Supporters from across the country have peppered her with tips for how to knock out Trump.

“I don’t think there’s a person who gets on that grip-and-grin line who doesn’t offer advice,” said Ken Solomon, president of the Tennis Channel and the Democratic National Committee’s finance vicechairm­an. “It could be the popcorn event of the year.”

The man has the thinnest skin that we’ve ever seen, so getting a reaction out of him and pulling the now well-known Trump personalit­y out will be important.

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GETTY IMAGES Hillary Clinton must not only parry an expected stream of insults and innuendo from Trump, but she also must overcome the perception among many voters that she isn’t trustworth­y.
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GETTY IMAGES Known for an unpredicta­ble and, at times, erratic temperamen­t, Donald Trump must prove he can be a steady commander in chief who knows the issues.
 ?? ASSOCIATED PRESS ?? Kellyanne Conway, campaign manager for Republican presidenti­al candidate Donald Trump, says her boss is “the unpredicta­ble X-factor and Hillary Clinton is the scripted statist” in the upcoming debates.
ASSOCIATED PRESS Kellyanne Conway, campaign manager for Republican presidenti­al candidate Donald Trump, says her boss is “the unpredicta­ble X-factor and Hillary Clinton is the scripted statist” in the upcoming debates.

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