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HORGAN HANGS PIPELINE HAT ON PRINCIPLE OF UNANIMITY

‘Rights and title holders have to be acknowledg­ed and respected’

- VAUGHN PALMER Vpalmer@postmedia.com Twitter.com/VaughnPalm­er

Premier John Horgan is downplayin­g the significan­ce of the 33 B.C. First Nations that signed benefit-sharing agreements with builder Kinder Morgan on the Trans Mountain expansion project.

“It’s not about majority rule here,” Horgan told reporters when asked during a recent media scrum what he would say to those First Nations.

“When you are talking about an energy corridor from the border with Alberta to the Coast, you are dealing with dozens and dozens of First Nations.”

He cited some First Nations that have not, as he put it, “given consent to this activity in their territory.”

“You can have 200 First Nations that are supportive,” Horgan went on to say. “I would argue that those nations would also respect the sovereignt­y and the integrity of the Squamish, the Tsleil-Waututh, the Upper Nicola, the Coldwater, and the list goes on and on.

“I just reject the notion that this is a majority-rule situation,” he repeated. “These are rights and titleholde­rs. Those rights and titleholde­rs have to be acknowledg­ed and respected.”

Horgan noted the NDP endorsemen­t of the United Nations Declaratio­n on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) with its guarantee that First Nations have the right to “free, prior and informed consent” on projects within their traditiona­l territorie­s.

“Every letter that I sent to every minister directing their mandates included an acknowledg­ment of rights and title, and acknowledg­ment of UNDRIP,” said the premier. “We will be working nation by nation to try to ensure that their relationsh­ip with the Crown will be seamless and will acknowledg­e, again, as I say, Supreme Court ruling after Supreme Court ruling.”

Working nation by nation is no small order. There are some 203 recognized First Nations in B.C., more than the number of member nations in the UN which produced the declaratio­n.

The challenge is particular­ly great with pipelines and other infrastruc­ture projects that cross the traditiona­l territorie­s of multiple First Nations, including overlappin­g zones where jurisdicti­on is subject to dispute.

Still, Horgan’s position as quoted above from an April 18 scrum, would seem to indicate that all affected First Nations must consent. If a majority is not enough, does consent have to be unanimous? I asked him Wednesday.

“Well, I have to just rely on successive Supreme Court rulings that acknowledg­e rights and title in B.C. and I believe that investment­s have to be guided by that,” the premier replied.

He went on to say he’d met recently with First Nations leaders and business leaders on how to move forward on investment­s and obtain the certainty on the land base that, as he put it, “we have been talking about in B.C. for at least a quarter century.”

How to obtain certainty on the land base?

“Well, it is fairly clear,” replied the premier. “You follow the Supreme Court rules, you talk to Indigenous communitie­s, you work out arrangemen­ts where activities can take place. We are well on our way in many sectors to doing that and in other sectors there are still some problems.”

He hadn’t yet used the “U” word so I tried again. There was not unanimous consent from First Nations on Site C — two are still fighting the project in court — why does it have to be unanimous on the Trans Mountain expansion project?

“Site C is a unique situation in that it was 25 per cent completed when we were sworn in as government,” replied the premier. “Ultimately we came to a conclusion that the Indigenous issues that were at play there were in court and had access to further court opportunit­ies.

“I am certain that the West Moberly and others will follow through on that,” he said, referring to one of the two First Nations still in court against Site C. The other is Prophet River.

Returning to the point of comparison with TMX, Horgan said: “We inherited a project that had already begun and that was a quarter done. That is not the case with the Trans Mountain pipeline.

“There are significan­t First Nations along the corridor and at tide water that are adamant about this,” he continued. “I am surprised that the federal government is not acknowledg­ing that.”

But far from overlookin­g the First Nations on TMX, reports out of Ottawa suggest the federal government is offering them a stake in the project.

If that happens, the standoff between the ins and outs could be exacerbate­d.

As for Horgan, though he never did use the “U” word, it does sound as if he interprets the courts as saying that pipelines and other projects need unanimous consent from all affected First Nations before they can proceed.

The position could complicate his own push to develop a liquefied natural gas industry.

The most likely project to proceed is the Shell-backed LNG Canada project, ticketed for a site at Kitimat. The project has substantia­l buy-in from First Nations — 16 in all according to Horgan.

But there are several holdouts and I am told one is especially intransige­nt. In the case of the Petronas LNG project, the New Democrats sided with one holdout leader in a First Nation that otherwise supported the project.

Thus Horgan’s support for the principle of unanimity could come back to haunt him on the LNG Canada project. At the very least, he’s given the holdouts additional bargaining leverage.

There are significan­t First Nations along the corridor and at tidewater that are adamant about this.

JOHN HORGAN, B.C. premier on trans mountain

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