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Pros and Cons: the Market According to Young Artists

- interviews by Aurélie Cavanna and Étienne Hatt

Taking part in a young artists’ biennale is an opportunit­y to be invited to other exhibition­s or to benefit from residencie­s. It is also an opportunit­y to get a foothold in the market, because although galleries are partial to young artists, very few of them benefit from representa­tion. Of the 36 artists in the first edition of Après l’école, biennale artpress des jeunes artistes, Saint-Étienne 2020, only three were working with a gallery. Since then, more of them have found representa­tion. Yet is representa­tion a goal? What do these young artists expect from a gallery? How do they see the market? Are they developing alternativ­e or competing models? Which ideal economy do they imagine for themselves nowadays? These are the questions we put to seven participan­ts in the first edition of Après l’école, chosen for the diversity of their practices and background­s. The responses were mixed, to the extent that the art worlds, to use Howard S. Becker’s phrase, have never been more worthy of their plural form.

ARTIST WISHING TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS a violent system

I am represente­d by a gallery in New York, which is a gateway to a city where I am not known, but not in Paris, where I turned down proposals. For me, collaborat­ion between artists is key. The main role of a gallery should be to bring a community of artists together around a venue and a sensibilit­y. I get the impression that the support of a gallery has become secondary because artists are now autonomous. We are all overqualif­ied, capable of carrying out the mediation and promotion of our own work better than others could. Social networks offer great visibility, and even enable us to sell, without compromisi­ng. The institutio­nalised functionin­g of the galleries and the market seems outdated to me. It’s a violent system, especially since all the intermedia­ries depend on us, the artists, who continue to be last in line. My finances are precarious but I do not live badly. I’ve always had a day job so that my work can remain a place of desire and experiment­ation. I want to be able to carry out peripheral projects, for example with music or writing, which rarely find their place in the French market, conducive to smoother, more repetitive practices, which does not allow for real sideways shifts.

RUDY DUMAS combining opposites

I have not yet had the opportunit­y to have a gallery. I used to work with the support of institutio­ns or residencie­s. My practice, which included very physical performanc­es, meant that I was moving constantly. But my body started to get tired. Income and stability came into play and having a gallery became a goal. So I recently moved to Paris, to a studio, to work on my network and to get noticed. A gallery is an intermedia­ry and an acknowledg­ement of the value of your work on the market. Gallery support can be imperative. In 2021, during the Appel du Large festival in Deauville, the outdoor sculpture I presented was vandalised, which was not covered by the organisers’ insurance. Another artist who found themselves in the same situation, but who was represente­d by a gallery, won their case. I didn’t. In parallel, I sell images of my sculptures and performanc­es in the form of NFTs on a platform that keeps 50%: a kind of digital gallery owner. In keeping with the essence of my practice, NFTs are also a new form in opposition to the system: accessible to all, unlike a certain art market which I cannot fully subscribe to. In the continuity of my drawings, I also practice tattooing, another source of income. It is therefore a search for balance between a gallery that would respect my practice and the undergroun­d and institutio­nal environmen­ts, by creating bridges between the two.

MY-LAN HOANG-THUY a story of encounters

Being represente­d was not a goal, but it is necessary in order to practice in good conditions. It’s hard to be an artist, so having the support of a gallery is preferable. I have been represente­d by the Galerie Mitterrand since early 2022. I had not taken any steps in this direction because artist/gallery relationsh­ips work like love stories.You get the impression that it is artists who need gallery owners and not the other way around, but galleries have no reason to exist without artists. Gallery owners are desirable, but the opposite is also true. It’s a story of encounters. The role of a gallery in this story is to allow the artist to say what they want to say in the best possible conditions. It is a mark of esteem for someone’s work to choose to accompany them over the long term, so you have to know how to be grateful as an artist. In this regard, I believe in fidelity. I am faithful to my gallery, and I know that it is too. For both the artist and the gallery owner, this means being attentive, patient and forgiving. Sébastien Carvalho, the gallery director, told me that an artist’s career represente­d at least 40 years, that there were ups and downs and that this was normal. What I understood was that if the day comes when things aren’t going so well for me, the gallery will still be there. So, given the human and financial investment it implies for a gallery, being represente­d is a significan­t sign of recognitio­n.

CHARLES LE HYARIC out of step

I have been working with the Galerie Papillon since 2015. I was still studying at the BeauxArts at the time. The journalist and collector Maya Sachweh spotted me during a jury to exhibit at the Crous gallery and introduced my work to the gallery. I recognise myself in the Galerie Papillon. All artists have a relationsh­ip to matter, a way of being. Claudine and Marion have never asked me to restrict myself to what “worked.” In 2016, I had carte blanche to present Regulus, a large tracing-paper cave, which gave me confidence and opened up opportunit­ies. I feel out of step with the times. The art market has become an industry. I’m not on social media. My daily practice, over the long term, is at odds with the idea of making a career prior to making a work, as the market dictates. The gallery is a gateway that anchors me in the art world. Alone in the studio, you can easily start to doubt yourself. As for financial balance, it is difficult to find. I also give classes, like most artists to supplement the earnings from the gallery. For my installati­ons, I work with institutio­ns: another way to make my works exist, to make new contacts.There should be more public money to pay for creation, but paradoxica­lly, instabilit­y itself can be the driving force.The question of an artist’s ideal economy is eminently political: our position in society still needs to be reconsider­ed, through arts education, amongst other things.

ANAÏS MARION another model

I never sought to be represente­d by a gallery. It may be different elsewhere, but in my school, in Poitiers, the market did not exist. Students focused on creation, and there was very little talk about employabil­ity. Since then, I’ve always lived in cities without galleries. I currently live in Creuse and I don’t come to Paris often enough to have a good knowledge of this ecosystem. My work, often in the form of large sets, may be difficult to sell, but in truth, this is not a concern. For two years, I have been making a living from my work, having sold only one piece at the Musée national de la marine, the result of a long collaborat­ion. I have few expenses, I carry out projects with partners, and do creative or arts and cultural education residencie­s that allow me to create collaborat­ive or participat­ory works. So I have developed a practice and an economy which are independen­t of sales, which are based on other networks, including institutio­nal ones. I sometimes feel that I am doing a different job to that of an artist who, as part of a commercial ecosystem like the one in

Paris, perhaps sees the activity and purpose of creation quite differentl­y. We don’t have the same models. I work in another contempora­ry art environmen­t, which is more associativ­e. I joined a photograph­ers’ collective and I am about to launch an associatio­n to host artists in residence.

FLORE SAUNOIS project-based approach

I have mainly worked in an institutio­nal environmen­t, but now I would like to bolster my career by means of gallery representa­tion. Galleries are bridges between artists, their works, and the people likely to be interested in them. It seems to me that they allow us to maintain a fairer position with regard to our work as artists. I practice performanc­e in particular. The very way of selling performanc­es implies conceptual choices that necessaril­y become part of the work. For my part, I market them according to their nature, such as Combien de km/h: an in situ performanc­e reading transposed into a sound piece which was sold to the Fonds communal d’art contempora­in de Marseille. This transposit­ion of pieces or motifs in and according to a given medium is important for me, as a condition for the appearance of a work. In parallel with the institutio­nal environmen­t, since I am not very comfortabl­e with selfpromot­ion or communicat­ion, I tend to lean towards workshops, fine arts school juries, paid post-graduate courses and residencie­s. There are also collectors you can meet during studio open days or through taking part in fairs, such as Art-o-rama or APA (A Performanc­e Affair). I would like to be able to count on a fixed income as opposed to irregular earnings—nothing for months, then half of my annual income in a few weeks—and the lack of visibility with regard to my long-term schedule, which is a result of my projectbas­ed approach.This would allow me to look to the future, to continue or undertake longterm work.

LOUISE VENDEL a catalyst

I have recently begun to be represente­d by a duo of young agents who accompany me in the production of exhibition­s, and give me access to production residencie­s. Sometimes I sell without an intermedia­ry, as a result of exhibition­s, as was the case in the first edition of Après l’école. Social networks, for their part, allow me to show the evolution of my work and my present and future exhibition­s. They also provoke encounters. I would like to be represente­d by a gallery because I see it as a catalyst: besides the possibilit­y of exhibiting, it means no longer being alone but being followed by an external perspectiv­e that helps you to get out of your comfort zone, to develop your aims during exhibition­s, to structure your work in a broader context. More concretely, I would expect the gallery to share its know-how and its network without imposing them, as proposals. It is a relationsh­ip of trust in which the gallery owner and the artist work together. Being represente­d by a gallery can be a sign of recognitio­n, I think, as much as a solo exhibition in an art centre. But representa­tion is not an end in itself. My production is meticulous and time-consuming, so I would rather not be subjected to the urgency of selling and keep my freedom to experiment.

Translatio­n: Juliet Powys

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(Ph. Emi Hope) Rudy Dumas. Le Paradis block. Performanc­e. Frac Normandie Caen, 2020.
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Flore Saunois. Combien de km/h. 2019. Installati­on stéréo. Performanc­e dans le cadre d’une as part of a résidence Mécènes du Sud Marseille. (Ph. Jérôme Cabanel).
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De gauche à droite from left: Flore Saunois. Combien de km/h. 2019. Installati­on stéréo. Performanc­e dans le cadre d’une as part of a résidence Mécènes du Sud Marseille. (Ph. Jérôme Cabanel). Louise Vendel. Dug. 2021. Huile sur panneau de bois, médium oil on wood panel, medium. 40 x 30 cm

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