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Images between Presence and Absence

- Interview with Héloïse Conésa by Étienne Hatt

Épreuves de la matière follows on from a number of exhibition­s about photograph­ic materialit­y which have been held over the last ten years. How can this widespread interest be explained? What are the specific features of the BnF exhibition? This question of materialit­y underwent a form of reset when the speed, fluidity and multitude commonly associated with digital images led some photograph­ers to favour a slower, handmade and rarer form of photograph­y, and sometimes a more ecological one. The BnF’s collection allows us to place these current trends within a broader history of photograph­ic materialit­y. In the 1980s, Jean-Claude Lemagny, then a curator of photograph­y, became drawn to what he called “creative photograph­y,” to practices that were as much about the material represente­d, often in an abstract vein, as about the material embodied in a particular photograph­ic process or print. Echoing what we have been seeing, for example, at Paris Photo for the last five or six years, I was keen to develop a reflection on this enthusiasm for matter.

What period does the exhibition cover?

It is quite broad. It begins in the 1960s and 1970s. The oldest work is a chemigram by Pierre Cordier, and the most recent is a print by Maxime Riché incorporat­ing the ashes of burnt pine trees from the town of Paradise in California. I believe it is important to show, particular­ly to the younger generation, that the questions they are currently asking themselves are part of a history.

Why not go back to the origins of photo

graphy? From the 1970s to the 1980s, the institutio­nalisation of photograph­y, the link between matter and politics, and reflection­s about the archive constitute­d a major turning point compared with previous periods, when the question of materialit­y was not conceptual­ised in the same way. Take the example of the photogram. In avant-garde movements, it contribute­d to a claim of the autonomy of photograph­y in relation to the other arts, in that it crystallis­ed the specificit­ies of the medium, whereas in the 1970s and 1980s, the photograph­ers who practised it emphasised the unique, non-reproducib­le nature of the photogram in order to establish the institutio­nal legitimacy of their medium. In this way, the reflection about materialit­y does not have the same scope in a photogenic drawing by Talbot, a rayograph by Man

Ray or a photogram by Ellen Carey, despite the fact that they emanate from the same process.

MATRIX, MEDIUM, PROCESS

Did this question of materialit­y take different forms throughout the period covered by the exhibition? There were different generation­s. For the generation of the 1970s and 1980s, photograph­ic materialit­y was more a question of the matrix, in terms of its relationsh­ip to the history of photograph­y—Patrick Bailly-Maître-Grand’s daguerreot­ypes, for example—and of the medium, in a post-modernist period that challenged Clement Greenberg’s claim to the ontologica­l purity of the photograph—Paolo Gioli’s Hommage à Cézanne (1982), for example. The generation of the 2000s, for its part, considered photograph­ic matter in its process dimension: experiment­al approaches emerged that took the liberty of revisiting the pioneering photograph­ic processes— from the calotype to the orotone, by way of the ambrotype—whilst disregardi­ng the history or aesthetics they implied. Both technique and material became timeless.

Despite the common conception of the dematerial­isation of digital technology, the latter is very present in the exhibition, including artificial intelligen­ce (AI). How has digital technology reactivate­d the question of materialit­y? I wanted this exhibition to be both retrospect­ive and forward-looking. I didn’t want to dwell on the nostalgia for analogue photograph­y. Digital technology has its own materialit­y, as does AI, but there are not many screens in the exhibition. For Gregory Chatonsky and Lauren Moffatt, digital technology and AI are simply tools for creating forms that are then embodied in a print, but whose materialit­y can branch out thanks to virtual reality, as in Moffatt’s Compost series (since 2021). The exhibition is permeated by this metaphor of compost and organic elements, and AI exemplifie­s this question of the body in mutation, in line with current societal debates.

So far you have talked a lot about prints. What are the other threads in the exhibition? Photograph­ic materialit­y calls on a variety of media: mud in Lucas Leffler’s work, salt in Ilanit Illouz’s, leaves in Almudena Romero’s, as well as a variety of techniques—an electron microscope for Yves Trémorin, a thermal camera for SMITH, a hologram for Michael Snow, and projection for Oscar Muñoz. Visual references are hybridised: sculpture in the work of Noémie Goudal, which re-enacts the effects of the pinhole camera; ceramics in the work of Denis Darzacq and Anna Iris Lünneman; drawing in the work of Anne-Lise Broyer, etc. Alain Fleischer’s installati­on, which brings the exhibition to a close, must be activated by the viewer, who plays with mirrors in order to materialis­e the projected image. I wanted the exhibition to be a total synaesthet­ic experience, not just a visual one.

All this experiment­ation and hybridisat­ion makes one wonder whether the notion of the photograph­ic medium has any meaning nowadays. Photograph­y, in its original definition as a gelatin-silver print on baryta paper, still exists and is being championed more than ever, as demonstrat­ed by the exhibition Noir & Blanc, une esthétique de la photograph­ie, which is being presented alongside Épreuves de la matière at the BnF. But since photograph­y flirts with painting, sculpture, video, cinema and so on, it would be futile to try and assign it a single definition. We must favour the mysteries of metamorpho­sis to the illusion of identity. Our contempora­ry world is criss-crossed by flows of images, which we first consult on screen, but from the moment they become embodied in a specific material, they reactivate our attention in a different way. Épreuves de la matière is intended to be manifesto for the visual experience­s it brings together, offering a form of enchantmen­t that only a dialogue with the original, a physical contact with the work, can provide.

FRAGMENTED PROPOSALS

The everyday experience of the image is the transparen­cy of representa­tion. One might think that an emphasis on materialit­y would lead to abstract works. Yet this is far from being the case. How does materialit­y interact with representa­tion? First and foremost, we can see a desire to revisit the canonical genres of art history—landscape, portrait, etc.—but each time with a contempora­ry slant. For example, the Iranian artist Morvarid K. uses green biro to cover photograph­s of burnt eucalyptus trees, victims of the mega-fires in Australia, to give them a presence and to dress the wounds of the forest. Jean-Pierre Bonfort, for his part, has printed photograph­s of mountains on paper towel, using this fragile medium to

highlight the vulnerabil­ity of the depicted landscapes. The portrait becomes multiple, a palimpsest, as in Laurent Lafolie’s work, which presents a mobile of platinum-palladium prints in which the single identity no longer exists. In her series X Puissance X (2012-15), Lisa Sartorio uses images from the news to create a representa­tion that is not immediatel­y obvious. From a distance, it looks like printed African cloth. The closer you get, the more you see that the kaleidosco­pe represents images of conflict and famine taken from the internet. These images are part of raising awareness about the continual scroll that flattens out our vision of images and the world.

This “matierism” or materialis­m is therefore in no way a formalism. The question of the materialit­y of images reveals a real fragmentat­ion of proposals that precludes any essentiali­st categorisa­tion. Beyond the possible hybridisat­ions between different media, I like the material ambiguity that emanates from certain works, such as Harmony of Chaos (2012-19) by Renato D’Agostin, which summons up all the imaginatio­n of drawing even though it uses exclusivel­y photograph­ic processes.

You mentioned that in connection with the ecological crisis. It is a photograph that tackles contempora­ry issues. The feminist question is also present in the exhibition. There are a great number of women photograph­ers in the exhibition, who use the medium with the aim of proposing new representa­tions of femininity. Whilst embroidery was already practised in the 1960s by women artists wishing to denounce misogyny and oppression, it takes on a more intimate character in the work of Carolle Benitah, who weaves new stories into the photograph­s in her family albums. The feminist question, seen through the prism of photograph­ic materialit­y, is now less about the struggle for demands than about the possibilit­y of reparation. This is the case in the series Les Oubliées (2021) by Anaïs Boudot, who has collected broken glass plates depicting women in the early twentieth century and repaired them using the Japanese method of kintsugi, thereby literally regilding their image.

The final part of the exhibition considers the precarious­ness of images. Is the exhibition an elegy to photograph­y? By examining the decay of the archival image in the work of Chantal Stoman, Bogdan Konopka, Éric Rondepierr­e, Joan Fontcubert­a and others, and the accidental nature of Sigmar Polke’s photograph­ic still lifes and Véronique Bourgoin’s paraffin-soaked ones, this section raises questions about my curatorial role. When you’re the curator of a public collection, there is a desire to register that heritage in eternity: we have to ward off loss, but couldn’t we also embrace the vulnerabil­ity of photograph­ic matter? Artists approach this subject with less deference than we do. The question arose, for example, when I wanted to acquire Anne-Lou Buzot’s anthotypes, made from the juice of lightsensi­tive plants that are doomed to disappear if exposed to light for too long. The photograph­er suggested giving me two anthotypes that could be “sacrificed” for the duration of the exhibition, and one that would be preserved in the darkness of the storerooms. All this thinking on the part of the younger generation, who are keen to introduce us to the secrets of the laboratory, is also reflected in the current valorisati­on of printing as an art form.

To go back to your question, the elegiac dimension of the exhibition questions the disappeara­nce of the image in various ways: through emptiness, but also through fullness, as in the work of Rossella Bellusci, where an excess of light dazzles the figure and obliterate­s it. The final part of the exhibition plays on this dialectic of presence and absence, which can be found in Vittoria Gerardi’s Latenza series (since 2021), and which is at the heart of photograph­ic matter.

Translatio­n: Juliet Powys

Héloïse Conésa is a heritage curator, Head of the Photograph­y Department, Curator of Contempora­ry Photograph­y in the Department of Prints and Photograph­y, BnF.

 ?? ?? Vittoria Gerardi. Aletegrafi­a -“Pondre Radical” A.PO2021-03. 2021. Série series Latenza. Tirage argentique, révélateur, argile, cire, résine naturelle, brins d’herbe gelatin silver print, developer, clay, wax, natural
resin, blades of grass. 65 x 55,5 cm. (Court. Bigaignon ; BnF, Estampes et photograph­ie)
Vittoria Gerardi. Aletegrafi­a -“Pondre Radical” A.PO2021-03. 2021. Série series Latenza. Tirage argentique, révélateur, argile, cire, résine naturelle, brins d’herbe gelatin silver print, developer, clay, wax, natural resin, blades of grass. 65 x 55,5 cm. (Court. Bigaignon ; BnF, Estampes et photograph­ie)

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