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What will Germany's foreign policy be after Angela Merkel?

Germany's next chancellor will in all likelihood be one of two current state premiers: Armin Laschet or Markus Söder. So, where do the two conservati­ve hopefuls stand on foreign policy?

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Germany's electoral race is beginning in earnest as the top candidates to replace Chancellor Angela Merkel jockey for position and credibilit­y.

Earlier this month, a few weeks after having been elected the new party leader of Merkel's Christian Democrats (CDU), Armin Laschet said in an interview with Reuters: "One expects a chancellor to be experience­d in both foreign and domestic policy."

Laschet, who also serves as premier of North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW), Germany's most populous state, was clearly plugging his own merits as the person most likely to succeed Merkel in the federal election set for September.

But his rival Markus Söder was quick to respond. Söder, who serves as premier of another of Germany's largest states — Bavaria — and heads the Christian Social Union (CSU), the Bavarian sister party of the chancellor's conservati­ves, pointed out that he had just come out of a 45-minute telephone conversati­on with French President Emmanuel Macron. Their discussion, the Bavarian premier said, had reflected "broad consensus."

Speaking in English, the two leaders had apparently discussed joint aviation projects such as the planned developmen­t of a European fighter jet, given that key players in the fields of civilian and military aviation are headquarte­red in Bavaria. Little doubt therefore that he was aiming to tout both his foreign policy credential­s and his profile as a firm advocate of Germany's export sector.

Germany's conservati­ves are expected to decide in late May who will be their official candidate for the chanceller­y. And given Berlin's increasing weight in the European Union and internatio­nally, the stakes are high: whoever wins the top job in German politics is going to face some very tough challenges, said Johannes Varwick, professor of internatio­nal relations at Halle University.

"Any successor to an incumbent with one and a half decades of foreign policy experience, an incumbent who has been steeled in countless crises, is going to need time to grow into the role," he told DW.

"Meanwhile, Germany's influence in internatio­nal politics has risen significan­tly in recent years and the next chancellor will be expected to live up to the country's growing importance. In fact, whoever takes over is going to come under even greater pressure to keep Germany at the forefront of key internatio­nal developmen­ts."

When it comes to foreign policy, and European policy in particular, Laschet is without doubt the more experience­d of the two contenders. Born in the western city of Aachen, close to both the Belgian and Dutch borders, he grew up with an early understand­ing and appreciati­on for the significan­ce of crossborde­r cooperatio­n.

Even during the COVID-19 crisis, in his capacity as NRW state premier, Laschet has defended the policy of open borders. From 1999 to 2005 he served as a member of the European Parliament, where his focus was on foreign and defense policy. And he has been a passionate and consistent advocate of the process of European integratio­n.

Bavaria's Söder has a very different track record. On European policy, Varwick describes him as "very much an unknown quantity." Thorsten Benner, Director of the Global Public Policy Institute in Berlin, goes a step further. Söder, he said, "has little or no attachment to the European project and would have no inhibition­s about indulging in opportunis­tic agitation against Brussels if it served his political ambitions."

One stance that the two do have in common is their more European-centered focus: Both tend to align on issues more with the EU and France than with the United States.

Loyalty to the trans-Atlantic relationsh­ip was sorely tested during former US President Donald Trump's four years in office. "For us, America had always been a land of freedom and democracy," Laschet lamented in an address during January's conservati­ve party convention less than two weeks after Trump supporters rioted at the US Capitol.

Söder, too, recently admitted that his love of America had been sorely tested during the Trump years. Both are now investing high hopes in the new US president, Joe Biden, who declared last week at the virtually-held

Munich Security Conference that "America is back … the transAtlan­tic alliance is back."

However, Biden's apparent determinat­ion to restore transAtlan­tic relations comes at a price. Like his predecesso­r, he is calling on Europe to step up military spending and shoulder more responsibi­lity in the fields of defense and security. In principle, Söder is comfortabl­e with those demands. But he has insisted: "We are not little children. We are partners, not vassals or underlings," as he recently put it in an interview with The Associated Press news agency.

One obstacle to a renaissanc­e in closer trans-Atlantic relations is Germany's stance on China and Russia. Again, like his predecesso­r, Biden also appears to believe that trading interests have pushed Berlin to be too lenient in dealings with Moscow and Beijing.

But that seems more than likely to remain Germany's fundamenta­l approach regardless of whether it is Laschet or Söder who wins the race for the chanceller­y. Laschet recently described the West and China as "competing systems." He did not, however, rule out a role for Chinese tech giant Huawei in the constructi­on of Germany's 5G telecom network — a position that leaves Washington seriously rankled.

Söder said last summer in an interview with German public broadcaste­r ZDF that "finding the right balance between interests and values seems to me to be the greatest challenge of German foreign policy in the coming years." It is not quite the hard line that Washington would wish for in dealings with Beijing and Moscow.

When it comes to dealing with the Kremlin, what is interestin­g is that both Laschet and Söder are opposed to American efforts to prevent completion of the controvers­ial Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline linking Russia and Germany under the Baltic Sea. Laschet has also strongly condemned the reported poisoning attack on Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny,but called for it to be diplomatic­ally addressed separate from energy issues.

And then there was Söder's visit to Moscow a year ago: it was very much in the tradition of similar visits by earlier Bavarian state premiers who had no qualms in promoting a specific

Bavarian-Russian trade agenda despite serious political difference­s.

Meanwhile, remarks apparently made by Laschet years ago could still catch up with him. Shortly after the Russian occupation of the Crimean Peninsula, he spoke of what he described as a "marketable antiPutin populism." Of course, he said, the occupation was a "clear violation of internatio­nal law." Neverthele­ss, he argued, if you have a diplomatic relationsh­ip with another country, it is important to "try and understand the world from the perspectiv­e of that partner."

Omid Nouripour, a foreign policy spokesman for the opposition Green Party, which is widely tipped to be a coalition partner with the conservati­ves in Germany's next government, was quoted as saying in a newspaper interview that such a degree of tolerance for Russia would make it difficult for Laschet to realize his stated goal of keeping Europe together. For historical and geopolitic­al reasons, Eastern European countries have long been strongly critical when a German government takes a soft line in its dealings with Moscow.

In 2014, Laschet even went so far as to offer tentative praise for Russia's role in the Syrian war: "From the very beginning," he said, "Russia has warned about the danger posed by jihadists. Which many in Germany dismissed as propaganda."

He also expressed a degree of understand­ing for Syrian President Bashar Assad, arguing that before the Syrian uprising a certain amount of religious pluralism had been possible in the country. He also expressed the view that militant Islamism was more dangerous than the Assad regime.

Varwick cautions against overestima­ting the significan­ce of such sentiments: "They can also be seen as a kind of foreign policy realism that simply asks, what kind of leverage do we have? And are we prepared to use it? Only then do you start considerin­g your rhetorical and strategic approach. I don't think that is fundamenta­lly wrong." But even today, Laschet's comments prompt fellow conservati­ves to shake their heads.

Few political insiders expect that either a Chancellor Laschet or a Chancellor Söder would engineer a drastic shift away from the broad lines of Merkel's foreign policy. Benner sees both as likely to continue the longtime chancellor's path, though not all her individual policies will hold up if the conservati­ves again have to form a coalition government to form a majority.

"On the one hand, because Merkel's course cannot simply be continued due to [inherent] contradict­ions; on the other hand, because possible coalition partners, especially the Greens, will insist on a change of course on important issues," he said.

"Both are full-blooded political profession­als," said Varwick. "And neither of them has really been identified with specific foreign policy causes or concerns. Whichever one of the two becomes the next chancellor will quickly discover that foreign policy is one of the key challenges."

Laschet is certainly more experience­d than Söder. But both are well networked internatio­nally. And, potentiall­y as least, both might claim to have what it takes to cut a statesmanl­ike figure on the internatio­nal stage."

This article has been translated from German.

port programs — as demanded by the EU — with the argument that the German school system is open to everyone. "Not everyone experience­d the genocide," Strauss pointed out. But to ensure equal opportunit­ies, extra support is important — and it all takes time, he explained. Sinti and Roma organizati­ons have therefore establishe­d mediator projects.

It's about how much this word stigmatize­s us. What primal fears and traumas it awakens in us," he explained. "The word 'Zigeuner' was tattooed on the skin of our people. And then they were gassed."

"If I tell someone, 'Please stop stepping on my foot, it's hurting me,' then they can't just say, 'Why should I? That's how we've always behaved.' "

But he and others are not only concerned about the "Zword," but also about the "rising numbers in the neo-Nazi scene, their sympathize­rs, the murders in Hanau [where members of the Roma and Sinti community were among those killed by a gunman in February 2020] and reports about police officers who move in these circles. It's traumatizi­ng and awakens these primal fears that we've carried with us for centuries, that peaked in the period between 1939 and 1945."

Study author Frank Reuter looked at how the minority was alienated long before Nazi persecutio­n across Europe, and how antizigani­sm continued afterward in many institutio­ns. The genocide was not even acknowledg­ed until 1982.

Reuter quoted a son of survivors: "The children called me a 'dirty gypsy.' Some of the teachers 'were former Nazis.'" Reuter showed that some textbooks to this day do not refute stereotype­s about the group, and positive narratives are virtually absent.

Both the history of the persecutio­n and also the success stories of the diverse Sinti and Roma cultures and the Romani language should find their place in teaching materials, believes Cudak. So far, this has only happened in isolated cases.

In the state of BadenWürtt­emberg, these topics have been formalized in the curriculum since an agreement signed in 2013 by state legislator­s, said Strauss. But almost no one has signed up for the teacher training courses that were offered on these topics.

Strauss is calling for an educationa­l fund for all of Germany, more informatio­n about identity, culture and antizigani­sm, and more empowermen­t to "develop something in the group's own terms." For example, where there are "Romno Power Clubs" for young people, he said, the prospects for education also increase.

Just as with the Sorbian or Danish minorities in Germany, cultural identity must be experience­d from kindergart­en onward. The diversity of the whole group needs to be understood, said Strauss.

"A person from Bavaria is not just a Bavarian, but also a woman, or a man, a Catholic, or a Protestant, a Muslim or Jewish, tall, short, fat or thin," he pointed out. "With the Roma and Sinti communitie­s, many think: 'If you know one, you know them all.' It's not like that!"

This text has been translated from German.

 ??  ?? The country's next chancellor will in all likelihood beeither Armin Laschet (l) or Markus Söder (r)
The country's next chancellor will in all likelihood beeither Armin Laschet (l) or Markus Söder (r)
 ??  ?? Laschet (right, here with former French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe) has a strong European policy background
Laschet (right, here with former French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe) has a strong European policy background

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