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Living Architectu­re

- Interview by AP

Carlo Ratti

Carlo Ratti is an Italian architect, engineer, inventor, educator and activist. He is a professor at the Massachuse­tts Institute of Technology where he directs the MIT Senseable City Lab, a research group that explores how new technologi­es are changing the way we understand, design and ultimately live in cities. Ratti is also a founding partner of the internatio­nal design and innovation office CRA-Carlo Ratti Associati.

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Könnten Sie erläutern, was „lebendige Architektu­r“für Sie bedeutet? Ist es ein Motor, eine Art Leitlinie oder eine Perspektiv­e?

CARLO RATTI

Für mich ist lebendige Architektu­r eine Brücke. Sie verbindet zwei Bereiche – die künstliche und die natürliche Welt –, die viel zu lange voneinande­r getrennt wurden. Es gibt zwei Möglichkei­ten, wie diese Brücke gestaltet werden kann. Erstens ermöglicht Big Data, Dinge wie Gebäude „lebendig“werden zu lassen und unserer gebauten Umwelt die Dynamik und Reaktionsf­ähigkeit natürliche­r Ökosysteme zu verleihen. Gleichzeit­ig gibt es eine explosions­artige Zunahme der Einbindung natürliche­r Organismen in gebaute Strukturen. Grüne Wände sind da nur der Anfang; wir können ganze Wolkenkrat­zer in vertikale Farmen verwandeln oder zum Beispiel Orangensch­alen als Baumateria­lien verwenden. Wenn Architekte­n es sich zur Gewohnheit machen, die Brücke vom Natürliche­n zum Künstliche­n zu schlagen und dabei sowohl nach Inspiratio­n als auch nach lebendigen Ressourcen suchen, können wir die Welt verändern.

S Ihre Projekte entstehen in einem multidiszi­plinären Umfeld. Die Präsenz sozialwiss­enschaftli­cher Diszipline­n ist besonders interessan­t. Warum beziehen Sie diese mit ein?

CR William Shakespear­e fragte: „Was ist eine Stadt, wenn nicht die Menschen?“Die Sozialwiss­enschaften stellen für mich das Tor zu besserem Design dar, weil sie uns helfen, die Menschen zu verstehen, für die unsere Arbeit eigentlich gedacht ist. Es geht darum, alles in unserem Werkzeugka­sten zu nutzen, um gebaute Umgebungen zu schaffen, die mit dem sozialen Umfeld harmoniere­n. Wir können nicht nur akademisch­e Theorien als Grundlage für unsere Projekte nutzen, sondern auch Big Data, um diese Theorien auf den Prüfstand zu stellen. Wir bauen nicht nur für die Nutzer, wir lernen auch von ihnen. Dieser Prozess ist sogar noch effektiver, wenn man Top-down-Analysen mit direktem Input von den Bürgern kombiniert. So können wir Rückkopplu­ngsschleif­en von Interventi­on und Iteration schaffen und unsere Arbeit ständig verbessern.

one type of transporta­tion to the next, and the city would be more accessible to explore than ever before. The city of bricks is 10,000 years old; the city of bits has only just entered the scene. As time goes on, the two are going to truly fuse with one another.

S You are always drawn to reshaping physical space. Where does that come from?

CR It comes from my belief that the spaces determine the shape of our social lives. We are increasing­ly living and working on the internet, but physical spaces have a key characteri­stic that digital ones do not: inevitabil­ity. In streets, subways and public spaces, everyone is bound to see everyone else – friends, strangers, all the diversity of the city. On the internet, you can filter away all but the narrowest of inputs. This is one of the hidden consequenc­es of remote work.

When we replace offices with Zoom rooms, we keep our close friends but lose a wide network of profession­al acquaintan­ces – the sociologis­t Mark Granovette­r calls them “weak ties” – who are the most likely to expose us to new ideas. If we are going into the office less, we could offset the loss of facetime by redesignin­g our physical spaces – offices, co-working spaces, cafés and more – to maximise serendipit­ous encounters and weak-tie formation.

S Let’s talk about World Expo 2030. What was your original motive to get involved in this project?

CR World’s fairs, when they were first created 175 years ago, were mostly excuses for nationalis­tic showboatin­g by the European colonial powers. This Old-World order is long gone, and the Internet and cheap global travel mean that Expos are no longer unique vehicles for disseminat­ing ideas. We have no lack of venues to share and glare. So, when I got involved with the Expo Rome team, I saw a chance to not only bring the Expo to my country but also to reinvent the Expo for our century.

My design studio participat­ed in the writing of Rome’s masterplan alongside the architect Italo Rota and the urbanist Ricky Burdett, and we wanted to give Expos a new purpose: as testbeds for architectu­ral experiment­ation that would otherwise be too difficult or risky to explore in the existing built environmen­t.

S From the outside, I feel it is a bold, ambitious approach to use a temporary event to reinvent a neglected, run-down urban structure. Would you briefly describe the basic idea here?

CR The masterplan is bent around the circular economy, transformi­ng an event known for its temporary excess into a sustainabl­e, permanent investment in the community. After the exhibition ends, every pavilion will be reused for new purposes. Throughout the fairground, we are building hundreds of tree-shaped solar harvesting structures across the Expo site. Together, they will make up the largest publicly accessible urban solar farm in the world. Beyond making the event fully energy self-sufficient, this energy infrastruc­ture will serve the surroundin­g area of Tor Vergata, one of Rome’s poorer neighbourh­oods, for years to come.

S And why is it worthwhile to rethink existing, non-functionin­g quarters of a city in such a way that they participat­e in the long term?

CR Cities are great because they are more than the sum of their parts. Segregatio­n has the opposite effect, undercutti­ng the benefits of human agglomerat­ion, hindering overall economic developmen­t and compoundin­g the injustices faced by marginalis­ed communitie­s. We need to incorporat­e every neighbourh­ood into the larger city, giving them access to city services and the opportunit­y to participat­e in the broader socioecono­mic life of the place. In the

years to come, as the vast majority of urban growth takes place in shanty towns outside cities in the Global South, devising the right strategies for neighbourh­ood reintegrat­ion will be more important than ever.

S Architectu­re in the future is...?

CR One of the deciding factors in the great fork in the road identified by Buckminste­r Fuller: “utopia or oblivion?” Architects must decide whether to dwell on aesthetic matters or vigorously confront the design challenges of climate change, human migrations and new technologi­es. We must decide whether to be lapdogs of powerful clients or vigorous activists for social and environmen­tal justice. To refine pristine penthouses for the rich or to innovate new, high-quality housing for migrants and refugees. Architectu­re touches the future like nothing else; it is the future. The things we build today are the vessels that our descendant­s will inhabit tomorrow.

S You leave your mark because...?

CR I have contribute­d to making “smart” cities “senseable” – both in terms of “capable of sensing” environmen­tal stimuli and “appealing to common sense.” Digital technology might make new headway every day but gains in our capabiliti­es mean nothing if we cannot harness our new powers on behalf of everyone. ●

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