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Lloyd’s chief navigates a perfect storm

Lloyd’s sees gross written premiums on China platform more than doubling in 2016

- By LI XIANG lixiang@chinadaily.com.cn

What Lloyd’s of London chairman John Nelson sees is a “perfect storm” facing the global insurance market.

He says the exceptiona­lly low interest rates and the excessive amount of capital in the insurance sector are driving down both investment returns and premiums for insurers.

Nelson also notes the rapid developmen­t of technology, which has also increased competitio­n in the markets by changing the relationsh­ip between insurers and their customers.

Lloyd’s of London, the world’s oldest market for specialist insurance and reinsuranc­e, is responding with a strategy known as Vision 2025, according to Nelson.

One of the highlights of the strategy is internatio­nal expansion. A core to that is China which will remain one of the most important frontiers for the institutio­n, as it continues to evolve from its start as a coffee house in London dealing in marine insurance in the 17th century into a global marketplac­e where more than 200 insurance brokers come to pool and spread risks.

Nelson spoke recently with China Daily about the insurance market’s strategy and its plans in China. The following are edited excerpts from the interview:

How do you see the growth potential of the Chinese insurance sector and what opportunit­ies are there for Lloyd’s?

Over the last few years China has become an extremely important platform for the Lloyd’s market. In Shanghai and in Beijing, we now have over half of the Lloyd’s managing agents physically present on the platform — 31 to be precise.

We have increased our business substantia­lly on this platform to 792 million yuan ($114 million) in gross written premiums in 2015, and we are confident we will surpass 2 billion for the past year and we continue to see China perhaps as the most important growth market in the long-term for Lloyd’s.

Insurance can provide vital support and protection, allowing Chinese companies to offset risks and focus on growing their business. In particular, Lloyd’s has the specialist expertise for the sorts of large constructi­on, energy, marine and transport projects that this country is investing in.

As a platform for internatio­nal expansion, Lloyd’s provides a really good springboar­d for Chinese insurers wanting to develop their internatio­nal strategies.

For example, China Reinsuranc­e Group has joined the Lloyd’s platform. We also signed a memorandum of understand­ing with China Taiping Reinsuranc­e in October 2015.

I think these things take time and that global carriers from China coming onto the Lloyd’s platform will increase.

How do you plan to further expand your presence in China?

Our Shanghai hub opened in 2007. And two years ago we opened a branch in Beijing, which brought us closer to the major reinsuranc­e market.

We have about nine managing agents on that platform and I am very pleased with the progress. I think the main next step is to reinforce what we have already done.

We’ve got the core of the market here. Now the challenge for the participan­ts is to increase penetratio­n in specialist lines. We are looking at new forms of distributi­on and are trying to get these specialist lines more into the veins and arteries of the Chinese economy.

How can Lloyd’s specialtie­s and services meet the need for more sophistica­ted insurance products amid China’s ongoing process of urbanizati­on?

The increasing urbanizati­on is in one sense making the economy more efficient and more inter-connected. But in another sense, it is concentrat­ing risks and the consequenc­es are obviously more relevant if you have greater urbanizati­on.

China is a classic example of a country that continues to rapidly urbanize. The movement of people from the rural countrysid­e to the cities is making economies more efficient, but also making them more vulnerable to systemic shock.

What we are seeing is that the risk from natural catastroph­es is increasing, but also man-made risks such as cyber attacks.

What role can Lloyd’s play in China’s Belt and Road Initiative?

The initiative will deepen trade ties between China and Europe and secure the future prosperity of generation­s to come in areas of the developing world. And it has the power to reshape the economic landscape, just as the original Silk Road did before it.

It will also provide new developmen­t opportunit­ies for Chinese insurers’ internatio­nal operations as well as global re insurers,with them providing capacity and global expertise.

And just as Lloyd’s was the backstop behind early maritime trade and the transport innovation­s that subsequent­ly transforme­d our world, so we are ready to partner with Chinese insurers to provide solutions to support and protect China’s economic growth and Chinese business interests abroad.

How do you intend to attract more capital from Chinese insurers to Lloyd’s platform after forming partnershi­ps with two of Chinese reinsuranc­e firms?

I think over the next five to 10 years, you will see a number of additional Chinese carriers coming onto the platform.

We want the process to be gradual and don’t want see people rushing at making a commitment. There is no point for the Lloyd’s market in a carrier coming on just for capital. What we want is to make sure it is broadening our footprint and business.

We are also very keen to diversify the nationalit­y base of the people on the Lloyd’s platform. So if a carrier wants to come on to the Lloyd’s platform, we are very keen that they put some of their best people into their Lloyd’s business. We think that having Chinese people on the Lloyd’s platform will massively increase the expertise in the market.

China has establishe­d an insurance exchange in Shanghai with the ambition to develop its own insurance market. What does this mean for Lloyd’s?

This is where I think Lloyd’s can help. We can bring expertise to the new products and we can do that through reinsuranc­e and by backing up domestic insurers.

Also, diversifyi­ng reinsuranc­e risks outside the country can help the domestic economy.

So in other words, having a liberal insurance market is very important. The Shanghai Insurance Exchange is in its early days. We are supportive of it and we have agreed to become a member of it. It will be very interestin­g to see how it develops.

What is the biggest challenge for Lloyd’s to navigate in the Chinese insurance market?

I think one of the biggest challenges is assessing risks in China. As the economy changes, there is a lack of data and a lack of history.

In other countries, we have got good quality data which allow us to model risks more accurately. As time goes on, that will improve in China.

But at the moment it is still somewhat difficult as it is at a fairly early stage of developmen­t. As times passes, we will be able to collect the data and it will become easier for us to model the risk.

How would you define your management philosophy at Lloyd’s?

If you look at it as a soccer analogy, we set out the football pitch, we mow the grass, we paint the lines, and we make it as good a pitch as it could possibly be. That is our philosophy.

What do you do at your free time?

I enjoy my family. And I enjoy sailing. I have been sailing since I was 15. I also like the arts and I am a trustee of the National Gallery in London.

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BLOOMBERG John Nelson, chairman of Lloyd’s of London.

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