The Jagruti Increases Through That
Questioner: You have given us Atma Gnan (the Knowledge of the Self), you have told us to remain in the five Agnas and read the Charan Vidhi. Is there anything else more pressing that we need to do?
Dadashri: Of the five Agnas ‘we’ have given You, even if You constantly follow just one of them, then that is more than enough.
If You follow the five Agnas, then You can experience a state that is comparable to that of Lord Mahavir’s; I can give you that in writing. I can give you a guarantee in writing that You will experience samadhi (a state that is free from the effects of mental, physical, and externally-induced problems) that is comparable to that of Lord Mahavir’s! And even if You follow just one instead of all five, the responsibility is still ‘ours’.
Questioner: Why does it not become natural and spontaneous with regard to the Agnas?
Dadashri: That is One’s own shortcoming.
Questioner: Which shortcoming is it?
Dadashri: It is a shortcoming in the jagruti. ‘One’ has to set the upayog to a certain extent, doesn’t he?
One man was doing the Charan Vidhi while lying down. It would have taken him twenty-five minutes to complete it were he alert, in a seated position. But it took him two and a half hours to complete it while lying down. Why is that?
Questioner: He nodded off in the middle of it.
Dadashri: No, spiritual apathy ( pramaad) would set in, so he would forget how much he had recited. So then he would recite it again.
Our Science is so wonderful; it is not possible for any interference to take place. Does it [the jagruti] remain to a certain extent?
Questioner: [Yes, it remains to a certain extent, but] It is not that easy to practice the five Agnas [completely], is it! That [ pramaad] draws the mind away!
Dadashri: What’s so hard about Seeing the pure Soul while walking along the road? Say the doctor tells you to not eat with the right hand for eight to ten days. So your job is to simply remember that much, isn’t it? So all you have to do is to maintain some awareness, isn’t it? If the awareness does not remain, then that hand ends up being utilized. This has been the wrong practice since time immemorial.
These five sentences [ Agnas] are very profound sentences! These sentences are very ‘basic’ [simple] to understand; nonetheless, the basics are so profound. They become understood gradually. They may appear to be simple, and they are indeed easy, but there are many other obstacles, aren’t there! Thoughts may be running in the mind, a tornado may be whirling within, smoke may be building up, so then how can One possibly See the relative and the Real as separate?
Questioner: Sometimes, you ending up giving a cautionary remark based on an evidence.
Dadashri: That naturally ends up happening with a rare person. If he is very close to ‘us’, then it may happen; otherwise, it does not. This is because it is only of use if he can see it for himself. Otherwise, if I were to tell him, then on the contrary, it would remain as it is without giving any benefit, and he would become preoccupied with it. Of what use would that be? He does all the vidhis, he does seva [while remaining in the five Agnas], so his jagruti will proliferate!